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1.20 "Five Years Gone"

Overview:

Hiro and Ando get a glimpse of the future. Peter goes nuclear, New York explodes, and Nathan covers it up by pinning the blame on Sylar. Sylar scalps Nathan, uses Candice's ability to masquerade as President Petrelli, and organizes a mass culling of superheroes everywhere. Peter and Niki hook up, Matt sells his soul, and Claire becomes a waitress. And Mohinder? Still being duped. It seems the only way to change the future is by getting Present-Hiro to slay Sylar, which pretty much takes us into the final three episodes, but also raises a bunch of questions about who these characters are, and who they're turning into. And it's awesome.

Review:

You know how the episodes on this show tend to vary from very good to extraordinary? This is one of the extraordinary ones.

The stock and trade merits are the same: characters are consistent, story and dialogue flow, performances are outstanding. What makes it stand out -- and in a way what makes it even better than "Company Man" -- is sheer creativity. Not in the concept, because if you're judging the episode on originality, it's not like the "what if?" concept is anything new. But if you're judging "Five Years Gone" on the way it takes that concept and uses it as a framework to develop its characters; if you're judging it on the strength of its ideas; if you're judging it on pure production value and the scale of the story it attempts to tell; any way you look at it, this is possibly the most ambitious and creative moment of the season.

I have minor complaints, but they're mostly relating to details left out and points which are yet to be resolved rather than blatant continuity problems or out-of-character behavior. More than any other episode, "Five Years Gone" underlines how carefully thought out the plot on this show has been. And when we get a milestone like this, I'm inclined to shelve the criticism, sit back, and just applaud.

The Previously... at the start might be the longest the show's ever done. I'm not sure. If not, it's still got to be the most wide-ranging. There are clips going as far back as "One Giant Leap" and "Collision," as well as the most scenes in "Parasite" and ".07%"

Sometimes I wonder what this show must look like to people who just tuned in. I mean, if you watched the recap, would you be any more clued in to what's going on than if you didn't? The montage of images is so cool that it would make you want to watch every episode, but the fact that the show needs to recap pretty much EVERYTHING that's happened since the premiere just goes to show how intricate the story is. And how screwed you are if you missed a moment of it.

Hiro and Ando visit the Future Apartment of Clairvoyance looking for Meester Eeezuk. They find a super-elaborate network of threads and pictures hanging across the room. And Future-Hiro. Future-Hiro tells Present-Hiro that he's "not supposed to be here." And the whole time-paradox headache begins, because if Hiro hadn't teleported to this exact moment and led guards to the apartment so that he'd be captured, the events which lead to Hiro learning that it's his destiny to stab Sylar with his sword would never have happened. Or something.

It's weird and confusing and doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but more on this later.

Future-Hiro recounts what happened in his timeline and what was chronicled in last week's graphic novel: Sylar scalped Claire, took her insta-heal power and regenerated from the nuclear explosion he caused. Future-Hiro outlines his intention to "go back in time and change the future." It sounds plausible on paper, and it would be, if the character hadn't tried and failed to do the exact same thing in "Seven Minutes to Midnight." But then, if Peter hadn't met Future-Hiro on the subway in "Collision," and if Peter hadn't told Present-Hiro to come to New York in "Better Halves," does that mean Future-Hiro never met Charlie? He would never have had a reason to visit New York, and he wouldn't have driven through Midland and stopped at the Burnt Toast Diner.

But if that's true, how did Future-Hiro get to the point where he was plunging his sword through Sylar in the first place?

Oh, heck, this is what the entire review's going to be like, isn't it? One "what if?" after another.

Present-Hiro's "I scare me" line was comic without being silly. The dynamic between the two Hiro's throughout the episode was funny, and in an episode with such a grim tone, there are moments of quirky humor which offset the seriousness. Even Future-Hiro telling his Present-self that he's supposed to kill a guy gets a laugh because of the vigorous headshake it gets from Present-Hiro.

Part of me hopes the show will find a way around it, because Present-Hiro represents the iconic hero who won't take a life under any circumstances. But then we got to the part where Future-Hiro slit the throats of a bunch of Homeland Security guards, and suddenly it didn't seem like such a shocking step. But given that Present-Hiro is still an idealistic dork at this point in the story, you wonder how he'll bring himself to do it. I could see Peter or Nathan killing Sylar, maybe Claire if she knew it was the only way to save New York. But Hiro? Not the Present-self.

I'm also curious to see how Hiro gets close enough to Sylar to even TRY to stab him before watching his sword get TK'd into the upper atmosphere and his scalp sliced off.

The SWAT team busts into the apartment and grabs Present-Hiro. In a reversal of the chase in "Run!", you'll note that Ando doesn't stick around and offer to trade himself for his friend. We can infer that it's no longer how they roll.

Future-Matt shows up to glare and intimidate. You wonder how this can be the same guy who went for coffee ice-cream runs and curled up with his wife on the sofa to read her mind, but that's the genius of this episode. Grunberg gets to play this badass official who'll put a bullet through your head if you think the wrong thought. And judging from the performance and the guy's enthusiasm in the commentary to the episode, he loved every moment of it.

In the alley below, Future-Hiro explains to Ando that the world "became a very dark place" after the explosion, and that there's only one way to rescue Present-Hiro and change the past. It's in Vegas, baby. And mercifully, it involves no [PRODUCT PLACEMENT] Nissan Versa road trips.

Future-Hiro and Ando visit a strip club in Vegas. "This is where we're going to find Peter Petrelli?" asks Ando. From his eager expression, it's a given that he's thinking the same thing a million Milo fans are thinking right now: Peter in his underwear, writhing on a pole.

I'll bet you anything Ventimiglia tried it when he was on the set. He's totally the kind of joker who'd do that so that his fans have another reason to look forward to the DVD outtakes.

Future-"Jessica" turns out to be Future-Niki-without-"Jessica," which is kind of interesting but never explored. Future-Peter refers to D.L. being "gone," and later admits to Niki that he killed Micah when he set off the explosion. The intriguing part is whether we can attribute Niki's alternate personality and "fractured soul" to an instinctive need to protect Micah, and whether Micah's death is what leads to Jessica's death.

Which raises, and in turn answers, the question about where the "Jessica" personality came from and how Niki will either eliminate or gain control over her.

Not that this would have been the most compelling detail in the episode. I was just hoping there'd be something more here, mostly because I figured the show would use this opportunity to finally give Niki a ray of hope; that it would drop a hint about what lies ahead in the way of character arcs and story threads.

Based on what we see here, Niki's basically going to turn into another Simone. A superfluous character with no discernible purpose besides looking attractive, scolding a guy for thinking that millions of lives are more important than her (how dare he!), and then storming off in a huff and making everyone feel guilty, conflicted and inferior. Oh, joy.

So Niki sees Future-Hiro staring up at her from the audience. She tells Future-Hiro that he gets "one song and two minutes" in exchange for five hundred dollars. Hilariously, Ando immediately pulls out a wad of bills and hands them over to Niki. "It's me, Niki! Ando! Do you remember?" Ah, the memories. Now Huggerz69 can call her a b**ch for cutting short her performance, and we can watch her choke the life out of him.

Or, Niki could just ignore Ando.

Future-Hiro says he's looking for Peter. Niki decides she'll speak on Peter's behalf. Because, hey, if you can get five hundred bucks just for talking, you might as well talk on behalf of your super-powered boyfriend.

Future-Hiro mentions Sylar, and Niki goes berserk and grabs him by the throat. And the sight of Ali Larter throttling Samurai-Oka is so startling that I wonder if Niki's story really will pick up. At least she's passionate about her son's death, even if she isn't interested in the prospect of, you know, preventing it from happening in the first place.

You can see what the show was trying to achieve by presenting Future-Niki as a grief-stricken mother who can't bear to let go of her son or forget about how she lost him. The problem is Future-Niki comes across as the kind of character who wants Peter to fawn over her while she wallows in sorrow and tells everyone else to get over what happened. Which isn't particularly compelling, and doesn't do the character much service when it comes to outlining what the show has in store for her. With pretty much every other character this week, it's one giant Alternate Universe Fifth Season Mega-Spoiler. With Niki, it's more, "Huh? That's all they could come up with? She's with Peter and she's p**sed off with the world?"

Nice detail when Niki walks away and Ando waves goodbye. Seeing what's left of a nuked city and watching his best friend dragged away by guards can't get him down, and apparently neither can Niki ignoring him. And no matter how badly Niki treats him, you know that Ando will always have a crush on her, and he'll always treat her right. Aww.

Niki walks over to the bar, picks up a drink, then puts it down again. It's not clear whether she slides the drink over to Peter as he dematerializes or whether Peter TK's it across the counter because he's thirsty. Either way, it's a cool detail.

The contrast between the younger and older Peter's is staggering. Someone needs to do a Then-and-Now slideshow and put the Peter in "Genesis" next to the one here. You can see why Future-Hiro would barely recognize the guy on the subway. Beyond the physical differences, it's just amazing how differently Milo plays the character: how the eyes and voice change, and how the quiet contemplation becomes a withdrawn disillusionment.

At Homeland Security, Matt gives Present-Hiro a stern talking to about all the "good men" that Future-Hiro killed at a Natural Science Center. Matt listens to Hiro's thoughts and can't figure out why the guy who's apparently the Superhero Most Wanted has so little going through his mind.

Interestingly, Future-Haitian sits in a corner and lets Matt's mindreading go ahead at the same time as BLOCKING Present-Hiro's time-freezing and teleportation. Which is another neat detail, because you realize that the Haitian's power-deflecting whammy is selective enough for the guy to decide whose power he inhibits and whose he allows to go ahead.

Future-Matt gets onto the phone to Future-Nathan, who's now president, and (as we later find out) actually Sylar. Nathan points out that he and Matt and the Down With The Supers Brigade have been "looking for [Hiro] for years." Which, unlike omitted details or time-travel headaches, just makes no sense. It's strange enough that no one thought to keep Isaac's apartment under surveillance; you'd think Sylar would keep every superhero residence guarded in case anyone ever returned to it.

But if you can let that go, someone needs to explain why a guy who can paint the future -- and who can paint specific individuals in the future -- couldn't paint Hiro. It's been shown that Isaac could focus his power and CHOOSE to paint Peter. So unless Sylar's completely inept when it comes to using Isaac's power, you'd think he could have knocked out a painting of Future-Hiro sitting in Isaac's apartment. Not a gaping plothole, and certainly not the kind of thing that'll pull you out of the moment. But in a script that's virtually airtight, it seemed like it was overlooked.

Bearded Ramamurthy! The pigeons have found the new Bearded One!

I can't tell you how disappointing it was to see Mohinder be duped again; to discover that, fresh from being duped by Sylar-as-Zane and Thompson, Mohinder's earning this week's Dumb As Mohinder Award for being duped by Sylar-as-Nathan. At this rate the only character on the show who won't play Mohinder for a fool is Mr. Muggles.

Essential expo-dialogue follows: we learn that Nathan poured "billions in research" into eliminating every super's ability. A lot of people weren't sure last week when it came to Sylar's painting of Nathan in the Oval Office. Some were convinced it was Sylar. I went with the theory that it was just a bad imitation of Isaac's painting, mostly because I couldn't figure out why Sylar would be interested in political power when all he wants is to find every superhero out there and slice their head open.

The line about research resolves that, though, because you realize that presidency is a means to an end for Sylar: it's his way of widening Mohinder's resources. Sylar's in a position to give Mohinder the facilities and equipment he needs to create an extensive list of supers, and then to ensure that none of them can pose a threat to him, particularly when he's surrounded by security.

More expo-dialogue: the supers are being tracked down and policed, then prevented from procreating and being cordoned off from the rest of the population. One question never answered here is whether it was the real Nathan who set this into motion, or whether it was Sylar all along. Sylar gets in a line about how Nathan "turned on his own kind." And as impossible as it is to believe Nathan would want to make good on his "island in the middle of nowhere" idea in "Unexpected," it's believable that he'd take measures to prevent a kid in Santa Cruz from sucking the oxygen out of his schools.

Pasdar's performance this week was off-the-charts awesome. The delivery and the mannerisms aren't so obvious that you immediately know he's Sylar; there were plenty of people who were caught off guard when he morphed back. But the performance is subtle enough that you can believe how Pasdar studied Zach Quinto's take on the same lines. The tone and cadence of the guy's voice are exactly like Quinto's.

At Homeland Security, Matt tortures Present-Hiro. Which is unsettling and saddening because we can't bear to see Hiro get beaten up, but at the same time it's a morbid delight to see Grunberg play the guy who tortures characters we love. It beats watching the guy fix leaky pipes.

Was I the only one who thought it would be Janice on the cellphone? I was sure we'd get a moment when Matt would be all, "Hey, sweetie, how's our *SMACK!* son? Sure, I'll be home in time for *FWUMP!* dinner. We'll get the wallpaper painted in *THWACK!* no time at all. Love you too!"

The cellphone call turns out to be a heads-up on Mohinder visiting the Future Apartment of Clairvoyance. So Matt goes over there too, and they talk about what it would be like to go down a "different path." And then Mohinder picks up the copy of 9th Wonders which Nerdeo was supposed to deliver. At which point we just want to say, "Uh, Mohinder? Buddy? You're holding a scene-by-scene guide to that "different path." How about you stop rambling and just READ IT?" But he doesn't.

The Future Primatech Fun Factory. Daddy Bennet's DNA forgery kit looks like hours of fun, but can he see anything without the horn-rimmed glasses? It's like he's ... naked, or something. Bennet struck me as the character who'd changed the least over the years. He still puts his daughter before everyone and everything, he still wants to serve a greater good by helping people, and he still believes in deceiving and manipulating people around him to serve his own agenda.

Hana Gitelman lives! It's a nice nod to the graphic novels that she's working with Bennet, but the reintroduction comes with problems. It's cool for people who read the online comics and know that Hana and Bennet are working together. But for the majority of the show's audience who don't follow the comics, the last time we saw Hana involved her spurring on RadioTed to go nuke Bennet and everyone at Primatech.

More worryingly, a lot of people confused Hana with Candice. And, truthfully, I can see where that confusion came from.

More obviously, though, a lot of people didn't remember Hana at all. Because it's been months, and because Hana's role was limited to putting RadioTed and Matt together and pointing them in the right direction.

None of which really matters, I guess. But when half of the audience are either trying to recall where they saw the character or going "Huh? Who's that?", it seems like a sign that the cameo was a bad call.

So Future-Hiro and Ando show up at the Fun Factory, and Future-Hiro's all, "Yeah, my superhero wishlist: I want the phasing guy, the illusionist, and that precocious brat from the second episode."

"Back up, Samurai ... Who was that last one?"

"I said I want Molly Walker."

"No, you said you wanted the kid from the second episode."

"Uh, no I didn't."

"Yes, you did."

"Did not."

"Did too."

*FWUMP!*

"Whaddaya know -- Molly's got a superpower too!"

"Who's Molly?"

"She's that kid Matt found under the stairs. Remember? That was Molly!"

"You think anyone's gonna get THAT?! Are you *%@#ing kidding me?!"

"Oh, you watch and see! I'll bet you a stack of waffles and a copy of the final 9th Wonders that a bunch of fans are going to make the connection and worship this show more devoutly than ever."

"Gosh, Future-Hiro. Does everyone need to make that connection? Because I'm not sure how many people will remember a kid under the stairs last October. I can't even remember my son in this timeline."

"It's less than a week ago in the story!"

"It's been five years, idiot! Also? Shut up!"

"But this is so cool, Future-Bennet! It won't matter if people get the namecheck or not. It's just a cool moment for continuity, and the story works fine whether people get the reference or not."

And it does. Which, unlike the Hana cameo, is extremely cool.

Future Burnt Toast Diner. Claire has become a waitress. And a brunette. And even prettier and more endearing than she was before. But the "Parasite"-obnoxious syndrome remains. More on this in a moment.

The heartbreaking part here? The show dashed the hopes of a million prepubescent boys by promptly supplying Claire with a beau the instant she became legal.

Do I hate the guy? Of course. He's the kind of generic hunk who'll inevitably win Claire's heart. But I'm also wondering whether this was one of those story threads which will go ahead regardless of the changes to the timeline. Like, we'll get to the fifth season, and Claire will find herself in Midland again, and this exact same guy will happen to be there, at the diner. It's not like the guy got a shade of character development here (although at least they named him, which is more than some supporting characters got). But knowing this show, there's probably an entire story arc already planned out for him. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to have a super-power too.

That, though, was part of what carried this scene: the implication that as Claire gets older, she's going to need to decide whether she can trust people enough to confide in them and reveal her secret. The gist here is that Claire can't bring herself to commit to her engagement before she tells Andy about her ability. It has the potential to be well written and compelling, but it could equally go the way of another show involving a superhero who's afraid of telling the love of his life about his special abilities. And then we get SUVs doing somersaults on highways.

Anyway, Bennet shows up for pie and surreptitiously warns his daughter that the Bad Men are about to find her.

Claire's response? "I just want a normal life! I'm getting married! Why are you doing this to me?"

It's "Parasite" all over again -- let's blame Bennet! Everything's his fault for joining that chop shop freak factory and pretending to be a paper salesman!

It's not like the guy was forced into adopting a kid. It's not like he did his best to hide the kid's ability as long as he could. And it's not like he's doing his best right now to keep her safe and, you know ... ALIVE.

Nah, he's the "creepy guy with glasses," and he's a jerk for shipping Claire across the country so that no one would find her. And now he wants to ruin Claire's normal life by getting her to safety? Shame on him!

And don't even get me started on Sandra and Lyle. At least there's a mention of Sandra leaving him, so we can assume Thompson didn't put a bullet through her head the moment Candice replaced her in "Parasite."

To be fair, Claire does then decide to elope with Andy. And even though the "Thanks, Dad" attitude is still here, even years later, it seems like Claire finally gets that Bennet will always have her welfare in mind. I just wish we'd gotten a hint that Claire will eventually realize how selflessly Bennet's acted over the years. Because in the end, you can bet that everything he does comes back to his daughter. Even in an alternate universe timeline.

Future Primatech Fun Factory. Ando wants to know if he's rich and married, and Future-Hiro's all, "Please, Marty, no one should know too much about their own destiny." Future-Hiro seems like he's about to tell Ando he'll be nuked, but Future-Matt shows up to taser him.

Hilariously, Future-Matt can't figure out how he caught the same guy twice. He doesn't notice that this Hiro has a soul patch and an abundance of hair gel. He also fails to notice that this Hiro sports none of the bruises that Matt inflicted on Present-Hiro a few hours earlier. And it never occurs to him that a guy who teleports through space and time could be in two places at once.

Matt gets this week's Dumb As Mohinder Award.

Future-Peter materializes and works his TK on a guard, then freezes time. Neat effect, and a moment when you root for the character, even when he gives that intense look of contempt at Future-Matt frozen in time.

The amazing part is that we sympathize with both characters. I think part of us wants to see Future-Peter beat the heck out of Matt, almost as much as we want to see Peter get his scar and Sylar scalp Nathan. But as corrupt and spineless as Future-Matt is depicted this week, we feel bad for the guy, particularly when it turns out that he's hiding his son from authorities.

Does Janice have an ability of her own? That would be laughable. So are we supposed to assume that it only requires one super-powered parent for the gene to be inherited? It isn't relevant to the rather moving exchange we get here (right up until Matt puts a bullet in Bennet's head), but it raises all kinds of questions about Angela and Papa Sulu and the way these characters' abilities have been passed down over the generations.

Future-Peter takes Future-Hiro and Ando back to the strip club. Future-Peter also figures he can best convey his badass nature by throwing off the billowing coat and revealing the tank top underneath. Because nothing says "Bad Boy" better than a wifebeater and a scowl.

Ando learns that he died, and that Hiro's "hope and optimism" disappeared immediately after.

In a way, it's a disappointing revelation, because you half-wish that Hiro's disillusionment would have developed from repeated failure and towering defeat over the years. Or from failing to stop the bomb.

But then, part of Hiro's appeal comes from his interaction with the people around him, particularly with Ando. He's a reflection of Peter in that sense: his attachment to the people in his life are what drive him to heroism. And if there was one good idea in that whole ridiculous "let's-find-the-sword-no-wait-let's-separate-because-it's-too-dangerous" mess, it was that Hiro considers himself responsible for Ando. So it stands to reason that he'd blame himself when Ando dies, particularly if Hiro can't even stop the bomb and starts wondering if Ando died for nothing.

If Future-Peter's right about Future-Hiro's motivation for changing history, it means that Future-Hiro's inherent nobility and heroism were killed off by his own failure rather than the reality of supers being killed off. It implies that he wants to save his friend before he wants to save the world. Again, it's one of those neat details which isn't essential to the plot, but it brings up ideas and discussion.

At the Future Apartment of Clairvoyance, Nathan and Mohinder consider whether Future-Hiro's crazy-ass plan to alter history is worth getting behind. Nathan tells Mohinder to stop playing with his action figures and come back to reality. Mohinder expresses horror at the prospect of wiping out the entire super-powered population with a lethal injection. Someone working on the show gets a light bulb above their head and figures the best way to redeem Future-Mohinder for inadvertently helping Sylar over the years is to have him (a) be Dumb as Mohinder, but more importantly (b) feel ethically bound to challenge Nathan and disobey him by doing The Right Thing.

Nathan defends his plan by suggesting that the extermination of a part of the population will lead to a world "united in grief." Which was basically Linderman's plan, and the one which, predictably, failed to achieve said unity. It makes you wonder what the connection will be between Linderman and Sylar if it's ever revealed. Given that Linderman has so far been portrayed as a would-be mass murderer with good (albeit deranged) intentions, it's ironic that the guy who's now feigning good intentions can't wait to watch every super-powered individual die. It shows up Linderman's plan for the lunacy that it is; and somehow, given that Nathan was tempted to go ahead with Linderman's plan, it makes his scalping by Sylar even more fitting.

One thought: does Linderman KNOW that the Nathan in his painting is Sylar? And does Linderman even know who Sylar is?

Petrelli Mansion. Heh, I wasn't far off when I called it a castle last week.

More amusing is the fact that the mansion apparently withstood a nuclear blast and emerged unscathed. Presumably, Angela's austerity formed a protective bubble and safely enclosed her from the impact. This, of course, would be after she was done stealing a few hundred pairs of socks to last her through the nuclear winter.

I wonder what it must have been like for Zach Quinto to watch this scene; to watch Pasdar play -- with such eerie similarity -- the character who Quinto brought to life. It also makes me wonder how different the character would have been if Pasdar had been playing Sylar from the start. Weird thought, but it crossed my mind because Pasdar owns the role so completely. It's Nathan on the outside, but you can hear Quinto's Sylar telling Claire that he's "got a lot of power" and "met a lot of special people." Kudos to Pasdar for playing Sylar so believably.

Claire gets a scalping, and Sylar gets the insta-heal power. Meaning the showdown between Peter and Sylar at the conclusion would likely go on for a while because both of them would keep regenerating.

Then we get another Peter/Niki scene in which Niki lambastes her boyfriend for leaving her to go save the world.

Read that again. I'm not sure I need to say any more.

Peter tells Niki that calling herself Jessica and "acting like nothing gets to [her]" isn't who she is. I'd like to agree, but the sad part about this episode is that it underlines how weak the Niki/Jessica storyline has been throughout the season. We don't know who Niki is, in the present or the future. Besides her love for Micah and her determination to protect him, Niki is as two-dimensional now as she was at the start.

I assume Niki will still be alive next season, and I hope the show will give her the screen time and character development she deserves. But as it stands, this scene fell flat for me, largely because it's not clear to me how Niki -- as Peter's girlfriend or as a character in her own right -- fits into it. Which is a shame, because Ali Larter played the scene with feeling, and her anger at Peter for revisiting events that led to Micah's death comes across as genuine.

Peter reveals that he was the one who nuked New York, and that Nathan covered it up and put the blame on Sylar to protect his brother. Which says a lot about the lengths Nathan went to in order to keep Peter under the radar; but it also opens up a huge can of worms when it comes to Peter's conscience and integrity, because you wonder how the guy could have entered into a relationship with Niki without ever telling her that he caused the explosion which killed her son. The way Future-Peter is portrayed, it's implied that he's haunted by the memory of what he's done and that he's willing to die to make it right. But if it takes a visit from Future-Hiro to pull the guy away from his girlfriend at a bar, and if Future-Peter only decides to tell Niki that he inadvertently caused her son's death when he's in a position to fix it, you have to wonder whether this guy's still the moral fiber of the story. Like Hiro having a personal agenda behind wanting to change history and save New York, it changes the way we look at the character.

Which was probably the idea, because it makes us reconsider who the characters are in the present day. But here's the part which grates: Future-Peter, Future-Hiro and Present-Ando now head over to Homeland Security to save Present-Hiro. Most of the plan falls apart when Sylar-as-Nathan shows up, but Present-Hiro gets back to his own time with a copy of the final 9th Wonders and the impression that stabbing Sylar will save New York.

Now, this puzzled me, and it's the only part of the story which doesn't seem to fit: Present-Hiro should be getting ready to slay Peter, not Sylar. If Peter's the one who causes the explosion, which we now know to be what happened, doesn't that make the whole stabbing-Sylar plan a little pointless? Killing Sylar means that Sylar can't explode, sure. But shouldn't Future-Peter be warning Present-Hiro that he needs to go back to his own time and stab Present-Sylar AND Present-Peter if he wants to save New York?

You could argue that Future-Peter's plan was to tell Present-Hiro all of this before sending him back. But throughout the rescue operation, it's unclear to me whether Future-Peter ever planned to admit he's the one who sets off the explosion. It seems like everyone's under the impression that killing Sylar in the past is the key to stopping the bomb. Future-Peter knows that's not true. Based on that, and given what we now know, isn't Present-Hiro now psyching himself up to stab the wrong person? Shouldn't he be getting ready to stab Peter?

Not that I want Peter dead and Milo off the show. I still maintain that Peter, along with Claire and Hiro, will be one of the characters who makes it to the end of the show's run. But this was a part of the alternate-timeline headache which didn't seem to make sense.

That aside, the final minutes to the episode were probably the most stunning of the season.

The scene cuts between Nathan's memorial speech in New York and the Matrix-homage at Homeland Security. Nathan talks about "sacrifice" while a team of security guards get the "Oh *%@#!" expression and have their throats sliced open by Future-Hiro.

I enjoyed this stuff as much as anyone, and I wouldn't have a problem with Future-Hiro killing if it was a last resort or if the success of Present-Hiro's mission depended on it. But this was just gratuitous. Why slaughter everyone at Homeland Security when you could freeze time in the lobby and casually make your way up to Present-Hiro's cell?

Nah, this is cooler, right?

"Shall we freeze time?"

"No, I haven't had a good fight in years."

And Ando? Watch that moment when Peter and Hiro start taking the guards out. Ando stands there with this bewildered look that's like, "What should I do?", right before the guards pump him full of lead.

Or not. Somehow, the guards don't seem to notice Ando any more than Niki did.

The part of Nathan's speech where he talks about "those who would do us harm"? Call me crazy, but that doesn't seem like psycho-killer insane-talk when it's intercut with images of the dead security guards falling victim to Peter's penchant for "a good fight."

Ando mentions the guards upstairs who'll be waiting with guns. And it only takes a moment for everyone to realize that those guards are about to get "a good fight" too.

Yup, sure enough, they're dead in under a minute.

Present-Hiro wails like a baby, and Future-Haitian gets the lethal injection by Mohinder. *Ping!* The light bulb goes on in someone's head: let's redeem Future-Mohinder for colluding with a murderous president by having him help Present-Hiro return to his own time!

I bought into it. Not everyone did, and I get why they didn't, but it seemed to me like Future-Mohinder was always working with the same objective in mind: to help every super-powered individual he could. The fact that he was duped by Sylar-as-Nathan doesn't make him a villain, and letting Present-Hiro go back in time instead of killing him doesn't strike me as a necessary "redemption" for the character. It's more a vindication of Mohinder's indomitable need to be a hero.

Which, judging from the mounting body count outside this cell, is something Peter and Hiro will struggle with.

Future-Mohinder meets Future-Peter, and Future-Hiro takes a bullet in the back from Matt.

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't Future-Peter have heard Matt coming? After meeting Sylar in Mohinder's apartment in "Parasite," shouldn't Peter possess Dale's super-hearing?

It's either a plothole, or the super-hearing ability really isn't as effective as it seemed, because that's twice now that someone managed to sneak up on a guy with super-hearing.

Sylar decides it doesn't matter if the world sees him flying. You could argue that Sylar was reckless for blowing his cover and not running into an abandoned alley before he launched into the sky. But does the presidency really matter to Sylar anymore? On a practical level, Sylar needs to stop Present-Hiro from going back in time and killing him off. On a psychological level, Sylar probably looks forward to seeing the nation unsettled by the discovery that its president was one of the "freaks" they were hunting down all along. And on a speculative level, you have to figure that Sylar's plan is to scalp Present-Hiro, take his power, then jump across time and rewrite history to the point where this scene would never happen in the first place.

Chances are Sylar's only thinking on the practical level in this scene. But I think there's definitely a plausible rationale behind Sylar's decision to fly on national television, so I'll let it slide.

Present-Hiro watches his Future-self die, and turns into a basket case. Future-Peter's presumably contemplating whether it's worth foregoing the rest of this "good fight" and freezing time so that he can get Present-Hiro and Ando out of there. Then Nathan shows up, D.L.-phases his hands through the door of the cell, and pulls Future-Peter into the corridor.

Nathan morphs into Sylar and tells Peter that Nathan "had already turned on his own kind." Which, more than ever, makes me wonder whether Nathan was the one who started the project to round up the supers and limit their interaction with the rest of the population. We'll probably never find out, given that this part of the timeline will almost certainly turn out differently. But it's one part of the backstory this week which I wish could have been explored: how much of this is Sylar's masterplan, and how much of it is manipulation of a project which was set up by Nathan.

The little we saw of the Iceman/Pyro homage was brilliantly shot. Like everyone else, I wish it could have been longer. But as with the non-existent smackdown between Peter and Sylar in ".07%", I have to believe the show will make up for it in the finale. As it is, this episode was working on a feature-film scale. As it is, this was a superhero moment for geeks to cherish. And if a five-second clip can generate such an overwhelming reaction, the final confrontation between Peter and Sylar is going to be phenomenal.

So we draw to a close: Present-Hiro and Ando are back in the present, standing on the Rooftop of Pigeonly Delight. The pigeons are still waiting for the Bearded One to return, but the Bespectacled One probably makes an adequate substitute. And Hiro now realizes that he needs to take a life if he wants to save half a city's worth of lives.

It goes without saying that "Five Years Gone" is an easy 5 out of 5. It's also the eighth 5 I've given the show this season. I'm beginning to wonder whether I should be qualifying how extraordinary an episode is; when it's in the context of an entire season's worth of do-not-miss-this-because-it's-frickin'-awesome episodes, I wonder whether I'm supposed to differentiate. Like, whether an episode is a better 5 than "Homecoming," but less of a 5 than "Company Man."

This episode? It's a 5+, and on a level with "Company Man," the episode which, to me, stood out as the defining moment for the show, and the one which exemplified what makes Heroes such a pleasure to watch and such a delight to take apart in reviews. More than any other episode so far, this is a testament to how well written and well crafted the show can be. Joe Pokaski deserves praise for scripting one of the strongest episodes of the show so far. Paul Edwards deserves praise for getting some of the strongest performances from the cast so far.

I say "so far," because the show has demonstrated throughout its first season that it's only going to get better. At this point, I'd still say "Don't Look Back" and "Collision" deserved the 5-out-of-5 scores I gave them. But next to the episodes that have aired since, the excellence is relative. When it seems like the show just delivered the best it has to offer, it outdoes itself. And when you think nothing can top the quality of the most recent episode, another comes along and turns out to be even better.


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KellyH:

Otto, you've done it again with an excellent analysis of the episode. You ask a question while providing an answer to another (I'll explain). I think that by asking one question, you've provided an answer to one that I've been asking. In fact, I've been scratching my head over a few points since Monday, and the question that's sort of answered by your review is the one that's been nagging me the most (I made a longish rant-post over on Beeman's blog about it).

The question is whether or not "real" Nathan or Sylar-as-Nathan was actually elected president and, in turn, whether it was "real" Nathan or Sylar-as-Nathan who instituted the purges and persecutions of "special" people. By asking the latter question in a direct way, you gave me the answer to both of them, and it lies in the dialogue that's been nagging at me since Monday.

Clearly, Nathan had to kill Candace first in order to "become" Nathan. But Future-Hiro has an almost throw-away line that even you didn't really dwell upon in his conversation with Future Bennet. He says that he had delivered certain supers into HRG's care, including DL and Candace, both of whom are later revealed to have been killed by Sylar. Now, if Candace was ever in HRG's protective care, it is quite obvious that the real Nathan was, in fact, elected to office and that it was, in fact (sadly) our Nathan who instituted the purges and persecutions that Sylar-as-Nathan later appropriated for his own purposes. This is clear because in order for Candace to have been turned over by Future-Hiro to Bennet, there must have been a threat, and that threat was obviously an "official" policy instituted by President Petrelli. It really WAS President Petrelli because, obviously, Candace was still alive.

So, a throwaway line becomes the answer to a couple of questions. We can't know when exactly Sylar killed Candace and then Nathan, but there is still one little nagging concern, and that is how exactly Sylar got access to Candace if Bennet was supposedly protecting them. My guess is that Bennet released them to Matt as "dangerous" individuals in accordance with their "arrangement." Matt then turned them over to somebody in the President's entourage, and Sylar somehow found Candace. That's all speculation, but it makes sense to me, and gives me some answers. When Future-Hiro asked for these individuals, Bennet was decidedly uncomfortable, and I attribute that to his having turned them over to Matt--which, in turn, would have led to his ratting out of Hiro and Ando to Matt later on (a move which led to his demise).

There has also been some gnashing of teeth on various message boards about how Sylar (without Claire's power) or Peter could have survived the explosion that either one of them caused. This doesn't require a lot of thinking. It's been pretty well established that the supers can't be harmed by their own powers. If Sylar or Peter took Ted's power (which is strongly implied in either case, and seems confirmed with Radio-Man's impending journey to New York), then obviously they would survive the explosion of their own making. Neither of them would have needed Claire for that. Ted has been shown to survive his own meltdowns on numerous occasions ("Company Man" being the most obvious example).

Because of that, it amazes me how many people are misinterpreting Future-Hiro's mission. Many blogs and message board posts are erroneously stating that Sylar needed Claire's power to survive the explosion. This is flat-out wrong. He needed it to survive Hiro's stab, and it was the survival of the stab that Future-Hiro was trying to prevent. In that light, it's kind of mystifying why Sylar (assumed to have produced the explosion) is assumed to be dead. Surely at the very least, Bennet and Matt should have known that the exploding man would have survived his own explosion.

A couple of other nagging points. One is an issue that many people are crying foul about, and that is why Matt couldn't read "Nathan"'s mind to know that it was Sylar. I suppose the Haitian is an explanation, but he was not always with Matt, and the Haitian had nothing to gain from working with Sylar (assuming he knew about it) and preventing Matt from knowing that. I guess it would make sense for Sylar-as-Nathan to order the Haitian (who probably works for him out of loyalty to Mrs. Petrelli) to block Matt's mind-reading, but it doesn't explain why Matt can't "rat out" Sylar when the Haitian is not around. Sylar can't have taken the Haitian's power, after all, since the Haitian is still alive. That's a pretty big plot hole.

The other is Peter's scar. I can't find any explanation for it other than it looked cool and it added some consistency to Hiro's comment at the beginning of "Hiros." In that timeline, Peter with the scar would have made sense since he would have never saved (nor presumably met) Claire. In this "new" timeline to which Future-Hiro returns, the scar makes no sense at all, since Peter did in fact "save the cheerleader." Even if the Haitian is again an explanation, shouldn't Peter have been able to heal the scar outside of his presence?

And that raises ANOTHER nagging point, namely, what the heck happens when the Haitian and Peter come into contact with each other. Does Peter absorb the Haitian's ability or does the Haitian "block" him from doing so (or in fact using any of his powers, one of which is the power absorption itself)? If the latter is true (which the episode strongly implies), then that places the Haitian rather high on the totem pole of powerful individuals--higher than Peter because he can neutralize him. He even neutralized Sylar in "Homecoming" and "Fallout." So I guess we can effectively say that the Haitian is the most powerful of them all.

If that's the case, his fall at the hands of the non-super-powered Mohinder Suresh becomes extremely cool and meaningful, and lends Mohinder's character some MUCH needed redemption from being duped so much. At least that's the way I see it.

Those are some thoughts that I've been pondering since Monday, and I'd love to know what you think of them, Otto!

You know, we nitpick this stuff, but we wouldn't do it if we didn't adore the show. And it in no way diminishes the awesomeness of the episode (although I enjoy it more on repeated viewings than on the first one). In fact, I think the writers want us to come up with questions and theories like this. Yes, they answer a hell of a lot more than the "Lost" writers every do, but they still leave enough open to speculation and theorizing that obsessed fans can have their fun. And isn't that what it's all about?



KellyH:

One other nit:
Niki apparently knows that DL is dead. Peter apparently knows DL is dead. She also knows that Bennet is "rustling cattle in Texas," as she puts it. She must know that Hiro delivered DL to Bennet before his death. WHY then, does Hiro NOT know that DL is dead????? That makes no sense at all. I guess nobody told him (Niki or Peter), but that's a bit hard to swallow.

Also, can ANYBODY figure out why NOBODY told Present-Hiro that Peter was the bomb (you raise that point). I have to figure that something revealing is contained in the comic pages that Future-Hiro handed to Ando, but it still makes little sense, as Future-Hiro obviously still thinks that Sylar is the bomb in this new timeline. I do wonder if these questions will ever be answered, even when and if these events are revisited.



Raissa:

It's "Parasite" all over again -- let's blame Bennet! Everything's his fault for joining that chop shop freak factory and pretending to be a paper salesman!

As with Parasite, let's blame expositional dialogue. They have one scene to convey 5 years of Claire's life, so they went with the emotional state that would most conveniently allow for semi-bitter dialogue like "only after Mom left."

It's been a weakness in the writing for a while, now, and I think we're just going to have to cope. I also think think the issues with Peter/Niki come down to expo-dialogue, as well. Her sulking got Peter to reveal a lot to the audience.



Otto:

Hey, Kelly and Raissa.

Kelly, the only thing I'd add to your speculation is the reference to the Linderman Act. It's possible the governement started herding supers before Nathan became president. If that's true, Sylar could have scalped Candice, taken her power, impersonated a bunch of people (including the then-president), and set the whole thing into motion before the "real" Nathan had anything to do with it. We don't know enough about the sequence of events and the role the characters played to be sure. Your theory's persuasive, though, and the whole superhero-persecution angle strikes me as something the show will explore no matter how the timeline turns out.

The D.L./Candice/Bennet/Future-Hiro backstory -- I have no suggestions here. It's the kind of arc which I imagine the show has thought through meticulously, so I think this is less a plothole than a glossed-over detail. The only thing I can think of is that Sylar might have taken Candice's power and then taken her place, infiltrating the group of supers-on-the-run and killing D.L. and the others. It's possible that Peter and Hiro weren't always working so closely, so it's possible Peter found out about D.L.'s death, even if Hiro didn't.

I'm not sure I agree with you about Peter and Sylar surviving the explosion without the regeneration ability; Ted survived the explosion in "Company Man," but this is (of course) an explosion on a much larger scale; for Sylar or Peter to survive when they're at the center of it, I think they'd definitely need Claire's ability.

Matt reading Sylar-as-Nathan: ha! Good catch. That went right by me. But hey, what if "Nathan" can think in Japanese? My theory would be that "Nathan" just tried to minimize the number of occasions when he and Matt met in person, as opposed to the times they spoke on the phone or through an intermediary.

Peter's scar: there was a mention in one interview a couple of weeks back that we might not see him get the scar until the fifth season. (I can't decide if that was a joke...) But my guess would be something happens to Peter to disable his power; and once he gets his power back, the injury can't completely heal. Or, it's some kind of supernatural injury which can't be regenerated.

Good point about Peter absorbing the Haitian's power. I think the Haitian would block the attempt, but that's only because the combination of Peter's power AND the ability to negate his opponents' power really would make him undefeatable.

On taking the episode to pieces and finding fault with it: what you said, word for word. And to me, that's half the fun, particularly on a show where there are so few flaws, and where it's usually just a starting point for speculation and debate.

Hey, Raissa. I'd like to nominate you to be Claire's defense every time I think she's out of character. :)

I agree, the show needed to summarize five years of hell for Claire, and part of that hell would be because of Bennet's connection to The Company and the measures Bennet took to hide Claire. Like you say, the dialogue needed to convey what happened, how Claire felt about it, and what the state of her relationship with her father was at this point in time.

Perhaps Claire would have come across as less ungrateful if she wasn't imparting blame? I think that's what kills my sympathy in this scene, the same way it did in "Parasite." I can't sympathize with Claire when she's blaming the guy who's desperately trying to protect her. I can't believe she doesn't see how her father's trying; I can't believe she doesn't see the efforts Bennet's going to so that she can have the "normal life" she wants.

On the Niki/Peter expo-dialogue: yeah, it's a device to make Peter reveal the truth about the explosion. But doesn't that make Niki a story device? And doesn't Niki deserve better than to be slotted into the plot for the sake of moving another character's arc forward? Just my take on it, but it seemed like Niki's role in the future was a wasted opportunity.



Jason:

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere yet is a comment that Nathan/Sylar makes to Claire (when he's talking about all the special people he met):

"I met this woman named Candace who allowed me to become elected President of the United States".

This implies that Sylar killed Candace and Nathan BEFORE Nathan becomes elected President.

Also, Sylar must have met Linderman at some point. Either before he became Nathan, which means he scalped Linderman, or after he became Nathan, in which case Linderman told him everything about the plan (b/c Linderman doesn't know he's Sylar). This would explain the comment "when I killed Nathan, he had already turned against his own kind." He killed Nathan before becoming elected President, but found out about all of Linderman's plan as Nathan.



The Doctor:

two quick comments: first, Peter doesn't have super-hearing because he only absorbs the powers that Sylar uses actively (thus he doesn't have cryokinese, molecular manipulation, knowing how things work, etc.) This was confirmed by one of the writers in the Behind the Eclipse series of intervies on ComicBookResources.com

second, Future Hiro doesn't know about DL's death or Peter being the exploding man because he is not from this timeline. (This was also comfirmed in Behind teh Eclipse). He is Hiro-Prime, from the original timeline. The timeline from 5 years gone shifted after Future Hiro jumped- thus why Clair is alive even though Future Hiro knows she was scalped.



KellyH:

Otto:
Great responses!
I maintain that it seems to be a basic principle that a hero can't be hurt by his or her own power. Meredith doesn't get burned when her body commits arson on her house, etc. Ted has survived several events of his own creation unscathed--the frying of the oncologist, the explosion of the police car, etc. Claire was a human skeleton after coming close to him at the end of "Company Man." But there was Ted in Primatech, sedated and unscarred. I think there is strong evidence to suggest that Ted can't be hurt by his own nuclear events. He certainly CAN be hurt by a scalping from Sylar, but that's another point entirely. But I do think that the main point is that Peter and/or Sylar taking Ted's ability would mean that they would survive the explosion with no need for Claire's power. It really seems clear that Sylar needed Claire to survive Hiro's stab and not the explosion, and Hiro seemed to understand there. The characters and the fans are misintepreting when they think that Sylar would have been killed by his explosion...I don't think Ted would have been had he caused it, and there's ample evidence to support that (i.e., Claire's pre-healed state after the exposure at the end of "Company Man" as opposed to Ted's).



Raissa:

Niki does deserve better, so does Claire, so did Simone, so does... You get the point. :) The writers seem to think that exposition = characters bitching and moaning.

Hell, even Thompson isn't immune to this. For the sake of info dump, Thompson, who should have known HRG well enough to see, accept, and move on from the Claire situation, is actually snippy with HRG in his own overly polite way in .07%.

The only really good exposition scene they've done so far was the "I know how to play dumb" exchange between HRG and Sandra in Parasite. Why they can't consistently use the same level of organic writing is beyond me.



Otto:

Jason: yeah, good point; the way it's worded, it seems like Sylar scalped Nathan before the election and orchestrated the Linderman Act from the start. I sorta hope so, because I don't want to believe Nathan could have been capable of that.

How do you think the "turned on his own kind" line fits in with that, though? I mean, Linderman's plan to blow up New York doesn't single out supers and make Nathan a traitor to everyone with an ability. (Although it does make him an accessory to mass murder. And a tool. And a jerk.) That's the part which makes me wonder whether Nathan puts the whole superhero-persecution bill into motion, even if he doesn't realize the extreme it could go to.

The Doctor: thanks for the info from the CBR interviews. I check them out pretty often, but I don't remember reading this. It's a fine detail, because it suggests that Peter's absorption of powers is different with Sylar than it is with the other characters; he got Isaac's clairvoyance and started painting stick-figure prophecies after finding the guy unconscious; he got Claire's healing ability without ever seeing her use it. So does that mean Sylar's method of acquiring the abilities (i.e. eating their brains) diminishes Peter's ability to absorb them? (DISCUSS!)

I think you get the whole time-paradox thing way better than I do. Future-Hiro wouldn't know that Peter's the one who causes the explosion in this timeline. But the question I'd still put forward is, Shouldn't Future-Peter warn Present-Hiro about it? If Peter's the one who sets off the explosion, isn't he the one who needs to be stabbed?

Kelly, it's definitely a strong argument. I'd still say the scale of the explosion would make a difference; I mean, there'd literally be nothing left for Ted to stand on. The guy wouldn't just be burned or scarred -- he'd be incinerated.

There's also Matt's line in "Unexpected" about Ted being "radioactive by nature." Peter and Sylar aren't, and I don't think taking Ted's power is going to change their DNA.

Raissa, I agree, there are a lot of clunky expo-dialogue exchanges over the season. I can see why the show needs to approach it this way, because it's pretty much the only way to bring in new viewers without expecting them to watch every previous episode at the NBC site. But like you say, you'd think a show as well written as this could integrate the exposition with more subtlety. I wonder whether that will improve over time, or whether the expo-dialogue will become clunkier and more rampant as the plot expands and becomes more intricate.




"But this was just gratuitous. Why slaughter everyone at Homeland Security when you could freeze time in the lobby and casually make your way up to Present-Hiro's cell?

Nah, this is cooler, right?

"Shall we freeze time?"

"No, I haven't had a good fight in years.""

Hey, Otto :)

Quick thought: Future-Peter and Future-Hiro are anticipating that the Haitian will neutralize their powers as soon as they reach the upper floor, correct? So if they freeze time, walk past the guards leaving them unharmed, and go upstairs, all the downstairs guards will unfreeze and be ready for action, and can rush upstairs when they realize something's wrong. I interpreted this as a sporting "Should we freeze time and then slaughter them?" "No, let's fight it out." exchange. Of course, I guess they could have frozen time, found some duct tape, and bound and gagged every guard, and hidden each guard in a different location so they wouldn't all be freed by some well-intentioned person, etc., etc. But I definitely don't see that happening. :)



UB:

Hey Otto - been reading the blog since, oh, probably around Fallout or so, never bothered to comment. Some interesting dialogue hopping up in the comments threads, though, so I figured I'd throw in my two cents:

1) I see no reason why killing Sylar couldn't very well still prevent the explosion. The reason for this can be found in the way in which it appears the two begin to fight at the close of this episode, namely that Peter seems to be drawing on a flame power to combat Sylar's ice ability (Claire's mother... Meredith was her name?), but one can assume that he hadn't appropriated that by the time of the explosion itself as Present-Peter doesn't have that skill. The next best thing would probably be Ted's nuclear abilities (unless the flame hands were simply a prelude to the use of said nuclear abilities as well), and the ensuing fight could very well be what caused the explosion (perhaps the method through which Linderman enacts his plan). Some leeway can be given to the writers here for the moment, as we still have very little knowledge as to the events just before and during the explosion itself.

2) I think the bigger question may well be, why exactly does Peter choose that ability in the fight against Sylar, in this most recent episode? As far as I can tell, nobody really has an ability to counter Hiro's, except for the Haitian - who we must assume Sylar can't copy, because the Haitian is still alive (well, until he dies, but you know what I mean). Even with Claire's regeneration, there's no reason Peter couldn't freeze time, stab Sylar in the head, then grab him and bury his body somewhere - perhaps toss him into the ocean where it's unlikely he'd be found, deep underground, whatever. This is further recommended because Hiro has already noted he was able to stab Sylar - most likely this is because of his ability, and not just his martial arts prowess (if that's not the case, somebody get Jackie Chan on the phone). Unless Sylar has found some other way to counter Hiro's abilities, I'd think they'd still be effective, and Peter obviously still has access to them.

3) I would agree that there's a good chance Sylar killed off Candace before she 'went into hiding.' However: Sylar shows off both her skills and those of D.L., two people specifically noted as having been brought in - possibly together - by Future-Hiro (Molly doesn't actually seem to be part of the intrusion plan, oddly enough; or, at least, Hiro doesn't mention her when he tells Ando of how Candace and D.L. will be useful right before he gets tasered). I think it's not coincidental that D.L. is absorbed. Also note that D.L. was brought to HRG, but not N-J and/or Micah. This raises the question of when D.L. leaves N-J, as well as for what reason (with Micah's death certainly being the leading possibility). But it follows from there, why would he go into hiding? He's certainly not been bashful of acting in the past, and he knows that short of effectively handcuffing him to the Haitian or keeping him constantly drugged he'd be impossible to keep in containment. The only time he's really ever been shown to be a bit gunshy is for Micah's sake, but timeline-wise he's already dead by the time D.L. comes to HRG. So my guess is he's following Hana for some vengeful purpose, as is her style, and I just feel it's unlikely Sylar would have bothered with such a pretext.

4) Everybody's focusing on the "When I killed Nathan he'd already turned against his own kind." Why isn't anybody focusing on Peter's response? "Liar." Honestly, Sylar's not exactly the sort who seems above a little abuse of the truth, either in his words to others, or in talking to himself. Perhaps Nathan really -was- looking for some sort of a 'cure,' minus the whole "round supers up, if this doesn't work then it's happy genocide time" Plan B. I can certainly see Sylar interpreting that, or a whole host of other significantly less malicious plans than the one actually in place, as having turned against 'his own kind.' Or, like Peter said, perhaps Sylar really was just lying. If he's not above stabbing Isaac in the arms and legs with paintbrushes, he's probably not above a little mental torture as well.

5) No references to Peter's dream in Fallout when his brother suddenly turns into Sylar?




Hi Otto :) Same here, I have been reading you posts for quite a time now and I really like your recaps :)

@ UB: Episode 11. I so forgot about Nathan turning into Sylar in Peter's dream. That's a great observation!

There's something that's been bugging me for days now and - I think - you didn't mention in your post on #1.20, Otto.

We have two different timelines. Timeline A is Sylar being the bomb, timeline B is Peter being the bomb.

Now Present-Hiro teleported into timeline B, obviously. But why does the Future-Hiro of timeline B STILL say he failed to stab Sylar? Since Peter is the bomb in timeline B, there never was an exploding Sylar that had to be stabbed. Hiro failing to kill Sylar thus never happened. Am I overlooking something here?!




Siege:

Yoyo Otto--
Been reading your blogs for quite a while now, I really enjoy your take on things. I haven't commented ever, but after this episode and seeing such an influx of new commenters, I figured I'd join in for the fun of it.

1st point: I've noticed that the Haitian doesn't actually block all powers. You'll notice that HRG and the Haitian were trying to chase down Nathan after he spent the night with Niki/Jessica (can't remember which episode, I think it was Hiros?) and, despite the Haitian's presence, Nathan was able to take off. My theory is that the Haitian only blocks powers that are capable of physically affecting other human beings, i.e., freezing them in time or throwing them around with one's mind. I think that, for instance, the Haitian wouldn't be able to block Claire's power or Claude's power because neither of those affect the people around them. (You'll notice that HRG and the haitian had to wear heat-sensing goggles to track Claude and Peter, instead of the Haitian simply showing up and blocking their powers). Ironic...despite the Haitian being possibly the single most powerful 'Hero', he's just as vulnerable to a bullet as any of us.

2nd point: To all those of you who are operating under the theory that Sylar was the bomb, that can't be right. Sylar wasn't the bomb. Ever. Nathan covered it up and Future-Hiro became the victim of an elaborate lie. No matter what timeline you choose, its a safe assumption that Peter is the bomb in every single one of them.

3rd point: this is actually a question. Do you think that Peter's dreams come from his empath ability, or from absorbing them from his mother or someone else? I think you said something about it in your blogs but I can't remember where or when.

Now for your discussion topic. I'm inclined to think that Sylar stealing an ability doesn't diminish Peter's ability to absorb it, but I could be wrong (with this show, no one ever really knows, after all.) I think that Peter has every ability that Sylar does, he just doesn't know it yet. Perhaps he actually DOES need to see Sylar use it before he can, so he'll probably never learn the art of making a skillet become a pool of silver liquid [Darn!] or be able to hear people's hearts beating from twenty miles away [hence Matt's ease in sneaking up on him]. I also think that its more difficult for Peter to draw on a power without knowing he has it, since if he doesn't know who had it or if they had it then he wouldn't be able to focus on the person and thereby draw on their power. I'm stumped as to how Peter was able to draw stick figure prophecies after finding Isaac stoned, although his use of Claire's power automatically when she came near him was probably just a reflex. Perhaps the show will enlighten us down the road, or perhaps we'll never actually know the full extent of Peter's power. Looking at the brilliance of the show so far, I'm somewhat inclined to not really care.



Raissa:

The Future Primatech Fun Factory. Daddy Bennet's DNA forgery kit looks like hours of fun, but can he see anything without the horn-rimmed glasses? It's like he's ... naked, or something.

I have a theory about Bennet's wardrobe and accessories...

Going back to the "Claire picks the glasses" flashback in Company Man, we see him in an absolutely hideous sweater. Couple that with the fact that Claire is helping him pick frames, and there's one inference to draw: He can't dress himself. Bennet understands this about himself, however. It's why he lets Claire pick his glasses and part of the reason why he gravitated toward his line a work -- a standardized dress code.

As for the Future Glasses, they look wrong, because they are. Something happened to the horn-rims after Claire went into hiding and Sandra left. Couple Bennet's despondency over the dissolution of his beloved family with his inability to independently accesorize, and he ends up wearing wire-rimmed glasses, instead.



Otto:

Hey, Reepicheep. I think this raises the question of how far the range is on Hiro's time-freezing. My assumption would have been that when Hiro or Peter freeze time, everyone and everything is frozen; so if Future-Hiro or Future-Peter had frozen time when they entered Homeland Security, everyone would have been frozen while they walked upstairs, collected Present-Hiro and got him out of the building. But your theory that the time-freezing effect would "wear off" at a certain distance works too.

Here's a thought: if Future-Hiro or Future-Peter had frozen time on the first floor of Homeland Security, would the Haitian a few floors up have been affected? Or would his power-blocking ability automatically make him "immune" to it?

Hi, UB. Your points, in order:

(1) Neat idea; we've always assumed that it would be a one-or-the-other deal, and that it would be either Peter, Sylar or Ted who sets off the explosion. It never occurred to me that it could be more than one of them at the same time.

(2) Yeah, your plan's more effective than the one they used in the story. :) Chopping Sylar up and burying him around the globe would work until someone, centuries later, decides to collect the pieces and put them back together again. (Buffy did that with The Judge in its second season.) I think the catch there is the whole "Peter-as-the-undefeatable-hero" thing. If Peter was thinking up the stuff you just did, there'd be no one who could stop him.

(3) Could D.L. have wanted to hook up with other supers for revenge, or out of a sense of solidarity? I think it'll depend on how stuff plays out over the next few episodes. But I agree, Micah's death would probably be what drives him away from Niki.

(4) I don't know about this point; Sylar deceives Sandra, Zane and Mohinder, and on every occasion it's because he has some ultimate goal in mind. But what would Sylar gain by lying to Peter about Nathan? I think the smackdown was going to go ahead no matter what, so what would Sylar's reason be behind taunting Peter with the prospect of a disloyal brother? Just to distract him?

Hey, Manila! I'm the last person to ask about the whole timeline paradox thing. I think the gist of it is this: Future-Hiro is like a "relic" of Timeline A. He's gone back in time to meet Peter on the subway, and by doing that he's changed history. BUT, his memories of history don't change, even when he returns to the future: from his perspective, it's still Timeline A: Sylar killed Claire, and Sylar set off the explosion.

I think that's why, at the start of "FYG," Future-Hiro needed to ask Present-Hiro and Ando whether Peter managed to save Claire. He only remembers the original version of events.

(Someone please shout out if that's garbage.)

Hi, Siege. On your first point: I tend to agree with the theory that the Haitian's ability applies to mental abilities but not physical abilities. So he can block Matt's mindreading and Hiro's time-freezing and Eden's coercion, but not Nathan's flight and not Peter's TK and not (in theory) Meredith's firestarting or D.L.'s phasing. That may be disproven at some point, though.

Second point: yeah, you could be right. I take the online comics as gospel in this case, so I'd say the original sequence of events involved Sylar taking Claire's and Ted's abilities and setting off the explosion. If Future-Hiro had never visited Peter on the subway, and if Peter had never saved Claire at homecoming, everything would have gone down very differently.

Raissa: heh, Bennet can't dress himself. You can picture him getting Sandra and Claire in the room every time he chooses a tie. A non-formal event is his Kryptonite. But Coleman works the leather jacket so well, I'll bet the show gives him a chance to branch out next season.

Bennet was probably a badass when he was younger. I'd love to see a flashback of that.



David:

It is possible that Peter explodes in a confrontation between him and Sylar. If current-Hiro kills Sylar, then the Peter-Sylar confrontation doesn't occur and the explosion doesn't happen.

This prevents the explosion without Peter having to confess that he is the bomb.



Anonymous:

*shouts thats not garbage*, as it was pretty much just confirmed today again over at CBR.

As for the Hatian, apparently there is going to be an online comic explaining his abilities/origen this summer.

And the thing about Bennet not being able to dress himself makes so much sense and just adds so much more to the HRG/Claire relationship.



eSYLum Productions:

There are various different theories when it comes to writing Time-Travel in fiction. I'm under the impression that the Heroes writers are working with one that says history CAN be changed and will work itself into the future instead of diverging into a parallel timeline. This is seen from the photo of Hiro and Charlie and how Claire survived in the future. I can accept that the Time-Traveller himself will have his memory intact from the change but what does not make sense is that if history was changed in Future-Hiro's timeline (Claire lives), then Sylar wouldn't have her regenerative abilities and hence would not survived up to the point in time when Present-Hiro arrived in the future.
By the way, I already guessed that 'Nathan' was Sylar when he told Mohinder in Issac's loft that he "knew how things worked"... mad props to Adrian Pasdar for and amazing performance.



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