Comments on: 4.09 “Shadowboxing”

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:38:15 +0000

“Lets get one thing straight SYLAR HAS EMPATHY FOR NO ONE Sylar was locked way inside of Matt’s mind the personality that resulted from the absence of Sylar IS NOT SYLAR.”

You could argue that. but it’s pretty clear that Sylar’s BODY retained all of Sylar’s abilities, while his consciousness retained NONE. since “Nathan” has TK’ed but Matt/Sylar has not. But, Sylar’s body DEFINITELY has “empathy” for Nathan. I don’t think it’s possible to empathize with somebody more than BELIEVING YOU ARE THEM.

Also- I have said this before, and I will say it again. Expect Matt Parkman jr to be renamed “Noah” at some point and be adopted by the Nathan living in Sylar’s body (who will somehow become “Gabriel” and who Peter will think of as a “brother”)

By: Vamroc

Vamroc — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:56:06 +0000

Lets get one thing straight SYLAR HAS EMPATHY FOR NO ONE Sylar was locked way inside of Matt’s mind the personality that resulted from the absence of Sylar IS NOT SYLAR. It’s Gabriel Grey the meek watch maker who to quote Gandolf “I would use the ring to do good” “but through me it would wield a power to great and terrible to imagine”. I’ve often thought Sylar has the most dangerous power because it allows him to know how the universe works think about what one could do with that kind of power.

By: Vamroc

Vamroc — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:23:10 +0000

I’m probably Sylar’s biggest fan I love how Zachary can just take over an episode with one scene also I don’t know how many people have drawn the connection between Gabriel’s current crisis and a certain Marvel charactor named X-Man. X-Man is supposed to be the most powerful psychic ever he can do all kind of crazy stuff read like read minds, move obects, and pretty much everything else Matt can do but on a global level. X-Man’s real name is Nathaniel Grey which when shorted become NATHAN GREY the first and last name of Pasdar/Quinto’s charactor’s on Hereos.

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:03:15 +0000

To be fair to them, the show DOESN’T say this.

It implies it with a nudge, but that doesn’t outright convince people. Some people want it to be actual, rather than implied. It’s the same with Maury being the one to haunt Angela in Heroes S2 - they imply it, but we still (to this day) haven’t had it confirmed on screen.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:13:43 +0000

Sylar’s empathy with Nathan pretty obviously came as a result of his psychometry mixed with living AS Nathan. Not sure why that seems so hard for some people to get….

By: Otto

Otto — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:35:55 +0000

“Angela is sending a mixed message. You’ll only have a passing normal situation if I send someone to watch your back.”

There’d be a certain irony to the whole thing if it turned out Gretchen was a plant. If the plan was to support Claire’s ambition for a normal life, it’s backfired quite horribly. With Gretchen gone and Claire left feeling like she’s lost all chance for a happy college life, it’s another case of an elaborate Angela plan going disastrously wrong.

By: ThePandoraRose

ThePandoraRose — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:56:33 +0000

Raissa , you are welcome.

I think it’s all there and it’s okay for the audience to get things that characters don’t yet and I look forward to the day it will all come out - I think Claire will bring it up before Angela or Noah would - Angela herself plays a good game of denial at the moment - to the point of believing her own lies.

As for Noah, I do think he is working - just on his own - his wall of info on Samuel - I would just like to see a mention of this company and perhaps Noah’s return to it in the next half of the season. I think they are a little distracted, Angie for sure.

By: Raissa

Raissa — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:19:24 +0000

I’m still in “wait and see” mode over some aspects of the storyline, as whenever we get our hopes up the show tends to dash them.

I agree with you there.

By: Myrystyr

Myrystyr — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:59:39 +0000

True, but since when has Angela been honest from the get go? And it is the kind of mishandling of company personell we’ve seen in previous seasons… okay, you got me, Gretchela is my way of trying to make sense of Gretchen’s role in the show - because what we’ve seen so far is, as Otto pointed out, more of a plot device than anything else. Maybe with Noah dragging his feet over forming Company 2.0, Angela took matters into her own hands…

I’m still in “wait and see” mode over some aspects of the storyline, as whenever we get our hopes up the show tends to dash them.

By: Raissa

Raissa — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:50:31 +0000

You could be right. But, if she is an agent for Angela, she’s a piss poor one, who has alienated her charge with the method of her departure. Plus, the whole cueing Claire to something weird with the previous stalker behavior can’t be good even if she can justify the mixed signals with maintaining her cover. Claire will feel betrayed and bothered all over again. Plus, Angela is sending a mixed message. You’ll only have a passing normal situation if I send someone to watch your back. Angela would have been better off being honest with Claire from the get go.