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	<title>Comments on: 4.08 &#8220;Once Upon a Time in Texas&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Ishan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ishan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um. If I'm not mistaken (I might be), wasn't Claire supposed to be grounded around this time? So she wasn't supposed to be out and about excited about the Homecoming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um. If I&#8217;m not mistaken (I might be), wasn&#8217;t Claire supposed to be grounded around this time? So she wasn&#8217;t supposed to be out and about excited about the Homecoming?</p>
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		<title>By: clarkie</title>
		<link>http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/11/05/408-once-upon-a-time-in-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-9983</link>
		<dc:creator>clarkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lauren/Noah bit REALLY bothered me. In an episode with the best romance the show has ever come up with, whyyyy would we ever want another romance with ANOTHER blonde? And can I raise a general question, which is WHY does everyone trust the Haitain so much?? How many secrets is the guy walking around with?? Did Lauren just go up to him and say, "Hey so I had this pseudo-affair with Noah, but it really isn't working out and it's just embarassing and painful, so please make me forget it?" 

I also wasn't too fond of Claire and Noah's scene...but I think I was mostly just creeped out by how strange it was seeing Hayden back in her cheerleading outfit. I can't say I made the same observation as Kelly H lol, but her hair has changed and her face is older and she just has a more mature air about her. I'm also not convinced about the idea of Noah wanting to be an English teacher. His character AFTER having raised Claire would be a great English teacher, but from the glimpse we got of him as a young man in Company Man and later in....um, whatever the Cataylst backstory episode was...Noah pre-Claire was generally ruthless, action-oriented, and single-minded. That Noah just doesn't strike me as the English teacher type. But who knows. Actually, I'd be very interested to learn how Noah got involved in the superpowered world in the first place. 

However, I LOVED the Charlie and Hiro scenes and I love your observations about ZQ's distinctions about this version of Sylar! great review, Otto! 

And by the way, I think Claire just really likes chocolate milk and it's more of a general reference. Brody was the first to mention it, but in a later season 1 episode Noah poured some for her, and she recently drank some again with Gretchen. (Writing this makes me want chocolate milk. I think I need to go get some....ok, I'm back).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lauren/Noah bit REALLY bothered me. In an episode with the best romance the show has ever come up with, whyyyy would we ever want another romance with ANOTHER blonde? And can I raise a general question, which is WHY does everyone trust the Haitain so much?? How many secrets is the guy walking around with?? Did Lauren just go up to him and say, &#8220;Hey so I had this pseudo-affair with Noah, but it really isn&#8217;t working out and it&#8217;s just embarassing and painful, so please make me forget it?&#8221; </p>
<p>I also wasn&#8217;t too fond of Claire and Noah&#8217;s scene&#8230;but I think I was mostly just creeped out by how strange it was seeing Hayden back in her cheerleading outfit. I can&#8217;t say I made the same observation as Kelly H lol, but her hair has changed and her face is older and she just has a more mature air about her. I&#8217;m also not convinced about the idea of Noah wanting to be an English teacher. His character AFTER having raised Claire would be a great English teacher, but from the glimpse we got of him as a young man in Company Man and later in&#8230;.um, whatever the Cataylst backstory episode was&#8230;Noah pre-Claire was generally ruthless, action-oriented, and single-minded. That Noah just doesn&#8217;t strike me as the English teacher type. But who knows. Actually, I&#8217;d be very interested to learn how Noah got involved in the superpowered world in the first place. </p>
<p>However, I LOVED the Charlie and Hiro scenes and I love your observations about ZQ&#8217;s distinctions about this version of Sylar! great review, Otto! </p>
<p>And by the way, I think Claire just really likes chocolate milk and it&#8217;s more of a general reference. Brody was the first to mention it, but in a later season 1 episode Noah poured some for her, and she recently drank some again with Gretchen. (Writing this makes me want chocolate milk. I think I need to go get some&#8230;.ok, I&#8217;m back).</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought in the Homecoming episode that Noah used Claire punching Jackie as an excuse to ground her, but was really forbidding her from going to homecoming because he had seen the painting where Claire was killed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought in the Homecoming episode that Noah used Claire punching Jackie as an excuse to ground her, but was really forbidding her from going to homecoming because he had seen the painting where Claire was killed?</p>
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		<title>By: Teebore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teebore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"LOL! Very true. But that’s Gabriel Gray, does he really now Gabriel IS Sylar yet, I guess the MO would do it, but this was old footage. Darn, well I can spin it."

Yeah, that was my spin as well. Bennet knows Gabriel Gray, he knows Sylar, but at this point he doesn't necessary know that Gabriel=Sylar. The paintings are all vague and shadowy, and he may not have made the connection between Sylar's head-slicing MO and the head-slicing he observed Gabriel perform. 

Am I reaching? Yes. 

Should the Company, if not Bennet, have made the Gabriel/Sylar connection at this point, especially since Bennet was "training" Sylar at the Company's request? Yes, but then the Company's own MO and relationship with its employees as been one of the show's muddier and still unresolved plot points since day one. 

Should this episode have somehow paid lip service to the "Bennet put Sylar on his path" retcon? Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;LOL! Very true. But that’s Gabriel Gray, does he really now Gabriel IS Sylar yet, I guess the MO would do it, but this was old footage. Darn, well I can spin it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, that was my spin as well. Bennet knows Gabriel Gray, he knows Sylar, but at this point he doesn&#8217;t necessary know that Gabriel=Sylar. The paintings are all vague and shadowy, and he may not have made the connection between Sylar&#8217;s head-slicing MO and the head-slicing he observed Gabriel perform. </p>
<p>Am I reaching? Yes. </p>
<p>Should the Company, if not Bennet, have made the Gabriel/Sylar connection at this point, especially since Bennet was &#8220;training&#8221; Sylar at the Company&#8217;s request? Yes, but then the Company&#8217;s own MO and relationship with its employees as been one of the show&#8217;s muddier and still unresolved plot points since day one. </p>
<p>Should this episode have somehow paid lip service to the &#8220;Bennet put Sylar on his path&#8221; retcon? Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Teebore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teebore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me cynical, but Heroes has often hinted at status quo changing developments such as that and never, ever, paid them off. As cool as Bennet-as-Professor X would be (something I've thought they've been setting up since the end of season one), I'll believe it when I see it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me cynical, but Heroes has often hinted at status quo changing developments such as that and never, ever, paid them off. As cool as Bennet-as-Professor X would be (something I&#8217;ve thought they&#8217;ve been setting up since the end of season one), I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it. <img src='http://www.herosite.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hrefna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hrefna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"Am I being completely dim here, or does that then suggest that Sylar stayed in the luggage compartment while the bus went from Midland to Odessa? If that’s the case then, really, Sylar absolutely MUST get a retroactive Dumb As Hiro Award."&lt;/i&gt;

Now, now, aren't you being a tad harsh?  One has to find the darn end of the duct tape before one can start TK-ing it off... _not_ an easy feat by any means.  Also, the poor thing probably had to levitate himself in a cramped compartment, while unrolling the duct tape, and by the time he was free, the bus was surely rolling.  What's he gonna do?  TK-stop the bus, burst flying out of the compartment... although, hang on, that could look kinda cool! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Am I being completely dim here, or does that then suggest that Sylar stayed in the luggage compartment while the bus went from Midland to Odessa? If that’s the case then, really, Sylar absolutely MUST get a retroactive Dumb As Hiro Award.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Now, now, aren&#8217;t you being a tad harsh?  One has to find the darn end of the duct tape before one can start TK-ing it off&#8230; _not_ an easy feat by any means.  Also, the poor thing probably had to levitate himself in a cramped compartment, while unrolling the duct tape, and by the time he was free, the bus was surely rolling.  What&#8217;s he gonna do?  TK-stop the bus, burst flying out of the compartment&#8230; although, hang on, that could look kinda cool! <img src='http://www.herosite.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remembered something I wanted to mention ... LOVED how you found a way to link to Milo's Responsibility Project commercial. That was good. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remembered something I wanted to mention &#8230; LOVED how you found a way to link to Milo&#8217;s Responsibility Project commercial. That was good. <img src='http://www.herosite.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last! 

Well, it took me way too long to get this read and it was a joy, as usual Otto. I really wish I could have seen it as positively as you did and perhaps when I get around to re-watching it, I will. Unfortunately, there hasn't been time to re-watch it. 

It was great to have Jayma back. She was just as wonderful as Charlie this time as she was three years ago. I totally did not see the twist of Samuel being the one to take Charlie away. I really do want to re-watch to appreciate Masi's anger in that scene. Although seeing Charlie get the "Caitlin" treatment was quite distracting to me. I kept thinking "Really, show? You're going to send another one lost in time somewhere? And you INSIST we never mention Caitlin again? REALLY?" *shakes head*

How or why is it they can get the Charlie and Hiro romance so right and so many others so wrong? 

As for Noah not recognizing Sylar because of the retcon that happened with Elle ... Otto, didn't you know that didn't happen. Isn't everything that happened in Volume 2 and 3 being ignored and/or forgotten? 

I wish it hadn't taken me so long to get through this and respond. There were a few other things I wanted to mention, but can't remember them now. Oh well. 

So glad the Dumb as Award got named after someone other than Peter. :) 

Well, at least Peter and Emma will be in the next episode and I can't wait for it ... and your review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last! </p>
<p>Well, it took me way too long to get this read and it was a joy, as usual Otto. I really wish I could have seen it as positively as you did and perhaps when I get around to re-watching it, I will. Unfortunately, there hasn&#8217;t been time to re-watch it. </p>
<p>It was great to have Jayma back. She was just as wonderful as Charlie this time as she was three years ago. I totally did not see the twist of Samuel being the one to take Charlie away. I really do want to re-watch to appreciate Masi&#8217;s anger in that scene. Although seeing Charlie get the &#8220;Caitlin&#8221; treatment was quite distracting to me. I kept thinking &#8220;Really, show? You&#8217;re going to send another one lost in time somewhere? And you INSIST we never mention Caitlin again? REALLY?&#8221; *shakes head*</p>
<p>How or why is it they can get the Charlie and Hiro romance so right and so many others so wrong? </p>
<p>As for Noah not recognizing Sylar because of the retcon that happened with Elle &#8230; Otto, didn&#8217;t you know that didn&#8217;t happen. Isn&#8217;t everything that happened in Volume 2 and 3 being ignored and/or forgotten? </p>
<p>I wish it hadn&#8217;t taken me so long to get through this and respond. There were a few other things I wanted to mention, but can&#8217;t remember them now. Oh well. </p>
<p>So glad the Dumb as Award got named after someone other than Peter. <img src='http://www.herosite.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, at least Peter and Emma will be in the next episode and I can&#8217;t wait for it &#8230; and your review.</p>
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		<title>By: Pas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with that. I've always thought Sandra and Noah (at a certain degree) were good parents but not a good couple, which is why Sandra finally left him. The facade couldn't go on forever, and it didn't.

On another note, I too wonder how much Lauren knew about Claire's ability or even if she covered her for Bennet (which would obviously be putting herself in danger). That would be quite a lot of people (with at least The Haitian and Eden) helping Bennet considering how he treated superpowered people like garbage back then. 
I hope some background is explored whenever she comes back, if she does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with that. I&#8217;ve always thought Sandra and Noah (at a certain degree) were good parents but not a good couple, which is why Sandra finally left him. The facade couldn&#8217;t go on forever, and it didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>On another note, I too wonder how much Lauren knew about Claire&#8217;s ability or even if she covered her for Bennet (which would obviously be putting herself in danger). That would be quite a lot of people (with at least The Haitian and Eden) helping Bennet considering how he treated superpowered people like garbage back then.<br />
I hope some background is explored whenever she comes back, if she does.</p>
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		<title>By: Raissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is where budget comes in. They had to pay so much to accomplish so much in this ep that they couldn't afford to bring AC back. I think they thought that his conversation with Claire would represent his conversation with Sandra. Instead, the subtext gives us a dynamic that's the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is where budget comes in. They had to pay so much to accomplish so much in this ep that they couldn&#8217;t afford to bring AC back. I think they thought that his conversation with Claire would represent his conversation with Sandra. Instead, the subtext gives us a dynamic that&#8217;s the other way around.</p>
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