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		<title>By: Hrefna</title>
		<link>http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/22/406-tabula-rasa/comment-page-1/#comment-8466</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrefna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was posted on twitter a while back by one of the Heroes writers:
&lt;i&gt;OliverGrigsby Oct 16, 03:44 PM
@jazmoore answering your Q from awhile back Peter took emmas accidentally bc he had an emotional connection to her. Caught up in the moment&lt;/i&gt;

You can take it as a plothole if you wish, or a sign of comic-book logic, as per Ian's answer above.  

Going back to the "but why didn't Peter just teleport out of there?" conundrum, then I think that it isn't a far stretch to assume that Peter absorbed Jeremy's power when he was being healed ("caught up in the moment").  Unfortunately the following "Did you get his powers? Yah."exchange doesn't really elaborate on whether that happened, or if Peter deliberately took Jeremy's power later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was posted on twitter a while back by one of the Heroes writers:<br />
<i>OliverGrigsby Oct 16, 03:44 PM<br />
@jazmoore answering your Q from awhile back Peter took emmas accidentally bc he had an emotional connection to her. Caught up in the moment</i></p>
<p>You can take it as a plothole if you wish, or a sign of comic-book logic, as per Ian&#8217;s answer above.  </p>
<p>Going back to the &#8220;but why didn&#8217;t Peter just teleport out of there?&#8221; conundrum, then I think that it isn&#8217;t a far stretch to assume that Peter absorbed Jeremy&#8217;s power when he was being healed (&#8221;caught up in the moment&#8221;).  Unfortunately the following &#8220;Did you get his powers? Yah.&#8221;exchange doesn&#8217;t really elaborate on whether that happened, or if Peter deliberately took Jeremy&#8217;s power later.</p>
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		<title>By: sleo</title>
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		<dc:creator>sleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, nice episode...Glad to see Pete getting his first Dumb as award for this season too. But I'm a little comfused about Pete's ability. Why did he absorb Emmas ability right after touching her?? We've seen him clearly touching Sylathan and his mother without getting their abilities..So we assumed that he acquired abilities willingly but then he accidentaly takes emmas power. Plothole?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, nice episode&#8230;Glad to see Pete getting his first Dumb as award for this season too. But I&#8217;m a little comfused about Pete&#8217;s ability. Why did he absorb Emmas ability right after touching her?? We&#8217;ve seen him clearly touching Sylathan and his mother without getting their abilities..So we assumed that he acquired abilities willingly but then he accidentaly takes emmas power. Plothole?????</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian: "Sylar can spit out bullets, but if Peter got shot they’d have to dig the bullet out and then share the blood with him."

Actually not. We saw Maya spilling out the bullet after she got shot by Sylar cuz of Claire's blood...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian: &#8220;Sylar can spit out bullets, but if Peter got shot they’d have to dig the bullet out and then share the blood with him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually not. We saw Maya spilling out the bullet after she got shot by Sylar cuz of Claire&#8217;s blood&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Otto,

I actually found Lydia in character here. Based on her glances at Samuel on how to proceed she is definitely working on his orders. However, remember when Edgar and Sylathan are fighting she looks distressed and asks  Samuel to stop it? She was worried about Edgar imo. That is the only time her facade breaks and she acknowledges him.

Samuel's plan is to make Sylar "their's." Like a glorified pet who protects the carnival and does not have any trouble following orders to kill (unlike Edgar). I think Lydia has the same plan - she is manipulating Sylar to kill Samuel in order to be free of him and protect her child. This is all what I discerned from the first viewing so I don't think I'm overanalyzing it - I hope... :-) 

If this is the case then it leads me to my one issue with the storyline, which is it's a repetition of what Angela tried to do with Sylar in V3 - give him a sense of belonging, take advantage of his identity issues and turn him into her personal attack dog. Lydia basically has Angela's plot.

Something I didnt catch until second viewing- when Lydia and Sam are talking in the begining he asks her, "what happened to him Lydia?" She says "I don't know. It's like there are two sides at war within him." That's Lydia's ability without the tattoos. It shows you how subtle but useful it is to Samuel for manipulation. I don't think she can tell you where someone is, their history, future or even thoughts - but their emotions. This could enable Lydia to be better at manipulation than Angela. 

The only person I found out of character was Edgar. What happened to the guy that only killed if he thought it was necesarry? When he killed the Police Officer t seemed like merely a way to show superiority over Sylar.

Re: The Istories ~ They convey a lot of important information about Lydia in those two minutes. It goes a long way in making her character more intriguing and gives Oliveri something to do, and does pretty well. I really wish they had put that information into the show. Amanda's story should have been solely in the IStory, with maybe a reunion with her mother on the show towards the end. (Amanda's storyline is just too close to Claire's to use on the main show imo.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otto,</p>
<p>I actually found Lydia in character here. Based on her glances at Samuel on how to proceed she is definitely working on his orders. However, remember when Edgar and Sylathan are fighting she looks distressed and asks  Samuel to stop it? She was worried about Edgar imo. That is the only time her facade breaks and she acknowledges him.</p>
<p>Samuel&#8217;s plan is to make Sylar &#8220;their&#8217;s.&#8221; Like a glorified pet who protects the carnival and does not have any trouble following orders to kill (unlike Edgar). I think Lydia has the same plan - she is manipulating Sylar to kill Samuel in order to be free of him and protect her child. This is all what I discerned from the first viewing so I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m overanalyzing it - I hope&#8230; <img src='http://www.herosite.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If this is the case then it leads me to my one issue with the storyline, which is it&#8217;s a repetition of what Angela tried to do with Sylar in V3 - give him a sense of belonging, take advantage of his identity issues and turn him into her personal attack dog. Lydia basically has Angela&#8217;s plot.</p>
<p>Something I didnt catch until second viewing- when Lydia and Sam are talking in the begining he asks her, &#8220;what happened to him Lydia?&#8221; She says &#8220;I don&#8217;t know. It&#8217;s like there are two sides at war within him.&#8221; That&#8217;s Lydia&#8217;s ability without the tattoos. It shows you how subtle but useful it is to Samuel for manipulation. I don&#8217;t think she can tell you where someone is, their history, future or even thoughts - but their emotions. This could enable Lydia to be better at manipulation than Angela. </p>
<p>The only person I found out of character was Edgar. What happened to the guy that only killed if he thought it was necesarry? When he killed the Police Officer t seemed like merely a way to show superiority over Sylar.</p>
<p>Re: The Istories ~ They convey a lot of important information about Lydia in those two minutes. It goes a long way in making her character more intriguing and gives Oliveri something to do, and does pretty well. I really wish they had put that information into the show. Amanda&#8217;s story should have been solely in the IStory, with maybe a reunion with her mother on the show towards the end. (Amanda&#8217;s storyline is just too close to Claire&#8217;s to use on the main show imo.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they're using comic-book logic more than D&#38;D logic. Comic-book logic being, of course, that powers do whatever the writer wants them to do in any given episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they&#8217;re using comic-book logic more than D&amp;D logic. Comic-book logic being, of course, that powers do whatever the writer wants them to do in any given episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrystyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrystyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and by the way:

"See Sound
This power enables a character to perceive sound waves visually..."
(Complete Psionics Handbook, page 37)

Sound/look familiar?

I'll stop looking at the show from a gaming perspective when the show stops giving us such clear parallels, I promise.

We now return you to your normally scheduled brand of geekdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and by the way:</p>
<p>&#8220;See Sound<br />
This power enables a character to perceive sound waves visually&#8230;&#8221;<br />
(Complete Psionics Handbook, page 37)</p>
<p>Sound/look familiar?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stop looking at the show from a gaming perspective when the show stops giving us such clear parallels, I promise.</p>
<p>We now return you to your normally scheduled brand of geekdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrystyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrystyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we pretend for a moment this is a by-the-book D&#38;D game (and overlook the fact I'm commenting on episodes I haven't seen yet), consider the following sentence in the Teleport description: "If the destination area is very familiar to the wizard (he has a clear mental picture through actual proximity to and study of the area), it is unlikely that there is any error in arriving, although the caster has no control over his facing upon arrival."

As for powers evolving, teleportation in D&#38;D is actually broken down into several different spells of different levels - Dimension Door, Teleport, Teleport Without Error, etc - and as you grow in power you can pick up more...

Of course, an in-universe explanation would save us the trouble of looking outside of the show for answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we pretend for a moment this is a by-the-book D&amp;D game (and overlook the fact I&#8217;m commenting on episodes I haven&#8217;t seen yet), consider the following sentence in the Teleport description: &#8220;If the destination area is very familiar to the wizard (he has a clear mental picture through actual proximity to and study of the area), it is unlikely that there is any error in arriving, although the caster has no control over his facing upon arrival.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for powers evolving, teleportation in D&amp;D is actually broken down into several different spells of different levels - Dimension Door, Teleport, Teleport Without Error, etc - and as you grow in power you can pick up more&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course, an in-universe explanation would save us the trouble of looking outside of the show for answers.</p>
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		<title>By: Pas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on the divergence of opinions. Spot on the 2 different goals the Company (protect the "normal" population) and the Carnivale (isolation - at least untill now) have been trying to achieve.
I don't think killing only as a last resort makes a difference. Maybe the Carnivale used to be like that too (if they had a Haitian-like memory wheeper) but that with Joseph's death if he was killed by a non-super (I'm hoping Danko, since he obviously kept hunting supers, and to add links with last season), maybe it was le last straw that decided Samuel to be more "radical" (hence Edgar saying he only killed when he -absolutely- neaded too compared to happy-slicing now).

On another note, I know we haven't seen Angela for a few weeks, but am I the only one to think she - and HRG unless he's not in contact with Angela anymore - are neglecting the Sylathan situation? She can't beleivabely think that Millie took care of it, and - aside than the population not caring about the fact that a senator just vanished in the air - I would think that they wouldn't be okay with Sylar running around (I'm considering they don't know about the blank state), considering he'd obviously be going after them at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on the divergence of opinions. Spot on the 2 different goals the Company (protect the &#8220;normal&#8221; population) and the Carnivale (isolation - at least untill now) have been trying to achieve.<br />
I don&#8217;t think killing only as a last resort makes a difference. Maybe the Carnivale used to be like that too (if they had a Haitian-like memory wheeper) but that with Joseph&#8217;s death if he was killed by a non-super (I&#8217;m hoping Danko, since he obviously kept hunting supers, and to add links with last season), maybe it was le last straw that decided Samuel to be more &#8220;radical&#8221; (hence Edgar saying he only killed when he -absolutely- neaded too compared to happy-slicing now).</p>
<p>On another note, I know we haven&#8217;t seen Angela for a few weeks, but am I the only one to think she - and HRG unless he&#8217;s not in contact with Angela anymore - are neglecting the Sylathan situation? She can&#8217;t beleivabely think that Millie took care of it, and - aside than the population not caring about the fact that a senator just vanished in the air - I would think that they wouldn&#8217;t be okay with Sylar running around (I&#8217;m considering they don&#8217;t know about the blank state), considering he&#8217;d obviously be going after them at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: Raissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Likewise. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Likewise. <img src='http://www.herosite.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos on the fan-fic. Always nice to see people taking their issues with a show and doing something constructive.

I guess I come from the comics approach. They're retconned so often that the main hope is they at least get the characters right. While it'd suck to lose Adam et al, I think they veered too far away from what the show was meant to be and made far too many mistakes. That's mostly the fault of S3 (much as I dig it, I wish they'd have stuck to their S2 guns.)

At any rate, I appreciate the banter. You've raised some very astute points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos on the fan-fic. Always nice to see people taking their issues with a show and doing something constructive.</p>
<p>I guess I come from the comics approach. They&#8217;re retconned so often that the main hope is they at least get the characters right. While it&#8217;d suck to lose Adam et al, I think they veered too far away from what the show was meant to be and made far too many mistakes. That&#8217;s mostly the fault of S3 (much as I dig it, I wish they&#8217;d have stuck to their S2 guns.)</p>
<p>At any rate, I appreciate the banter. You&#8217;ve raised some very astute points.</p>
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