Comments on: 4.03 “Ink” http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/ Episode reviews and more for the hit NBC show, Heroes! Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:58:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Gord http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-7074 Gord Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:17:04 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-7074 I think we're overlooking the fact that this whole Grethen plotline is primarily and fundamentally about having a reason to show college girls in their underwear. Done. I think we’re overlooking the fact that this whole Grethen plotline is primarily and fundamentally about having a reason to show college girls in their underwear.

Done.

]]> By: KellyH http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-7004 KellyH Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:58:34 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-7004 Yes, it was the Kennedy story that bothered me and a lot of other people. Most people actually liked Tara and found the relationship moving and touching. And at the outset, Joss said she was a heterosexual who fell in love with a woman. It was the Kennedy relationship, not the Tara one, that made the feelings for Oz and Xander a lie. They even had an S4 episode where Willow cleared things with Oz--his farewell episode. Yes, it was the Kennedy story that bothered me and a lot of other people. Most people actually liked Tara and found the relationship moving and touching. And at the outset, Joss said she was a heterosexual who fell in love with a woman. It was the Kennedy relationship, not the Tara one, that made the feelings for Oz and Xander a lie. They even had an S4 episode where Willow cleared things with Oz–his farewell episode.

]]> By: Mrcaliche http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-6860 Mrcaliche Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:58:00 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-6860 This was actually a great review, and I'm very happy with what happened and the way their characters where handled, especially Emma. It seems that now they're focussing on very personal crises and that's amazing. So far the only one that doesn't seem to be working for me (though it wasn't in this episode) was Hiro's, it just reeks of the same old Hiro. But if I look at Matt's predicament, Claire's growth, and Peter becoming a very likeable heart-of-the-show character like he was in season 1 and never again, I think it more than makes up for it. Only thing I really disagree with is your absolute hatred of Gretchen, I think there's more to her than meets the eye, and I think the show is trying WAY TOO FREAKIN' HARD to make us think there's something fishy with her, you know what I mean? The show wouldn't go so far off its way to make us suspect so much of Gretchen if it weren't meaning to pull the rug from under our feet. Do I think she's weird? Yeah, Do I think she's kinda annoying? Yeah, but I kinda find her likeable and hope to find out more about the character. I think you should give her a break until we know a bit more about her. But anyway, I think this is an amazing episode and I think if they can keep this attention to character throughout the season Heroes might regain its good name. This was actually a great review, and I’m very happy with what happened and the way their characters where handled, especially Emma. It seems that now they’re focussing on very personal crises and that’s amazing. So far the only one that doesn’t seem to be working for me (though it wasn’t in this episode) was Hiro’s, it just reeks of the same old Hiro. But if I look at Matt’s predicament, Claire’s growth, and Peter becoming a very likeable heart-of-the-show character like he was in season 1 and never again, I think it more than makes up for it.
Only thing I really disagree with is your absolute hatred of Gretchen, I think there’s more to her than meets the eye, and I think the show is trying WAY TOO FREAKIN’ HARD to make us think there’s something fishy with her, you know what I mean? The show wouldn’t go so far off its way to make us suspect so much of Gretchen if it weren’t meaning to pull the rug from under our feet. Do I think she’s weird? Yeah, Do I think she’s kinda annoying? Yeah, but I kinda find her likeable and hope to find out more about the character. I think you should give her a break until we know a bit more about her.
But anyway, I think this is an amazing episode and I think if they can keep this attention to character throughout the season Heroes might regain its good name.

]]> By: Hayley http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-6811 Hayley Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:45:07 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-6811 Great review as always Otto! This episode, surprised me, a lot. I wasn't expecting something so emotional like "Ink", we don't need fights in every episode, we need to know the characters' stories, motivations, etc. I really liked Emma, she seems so sweet :) I hope she doesn't end up death in a pool of blood if you know what I mean... Peter... auuuwww!! This man is so so charming! He's starting to be empathic again, does that mean that he's getting his powers back anytime soon? My fingers are crossed... Matt/Sylar: I didn't like that storyline in the premiere, but after watching this ep., I kinda like it! I mean, for a second, just for a second, I thought: "Aw, Sylar wants to help Matt", how wrong I was! He just wanted to mess up with Matt, of course! Wouldn't be easier if he's nice and politely asks Matt to give him back his body??? haha just kidding! Love the tragic life of Parkman right now, poor man, but the lesson's learned: If you mess with Mr. Gray, he'll comeback and bite you hardest in the a**... Wow, I'm looking forward to Claire's storyline again since season 2... She's growing up and that's very cool! And I keep believing: Gretchen's a b***c! And Clairebear's being so naive. And for her sake, this "relationship" won't last so much... Seriously, I want to see Gretchen in a ditch, is too much to ask? Call me crazy, but I want Claire to be bad-ass like her "future self" in "I Am Become Death", really! I'm really happy, NO Hiro!!! Yaii!! They focusing in less character per episode which is helping to understand better and avoid disasters like volume 3... Kisses! Great review as always Otto!

This episode, surprised me, a lot. I wasn’t expecting something so emotional like “Ink”, we don’t need fights in every episode, we need to know the characters’ stories, motivations, etc.

I really liked Emma, she seems so sweet :) I hope she doesn’t end up death in a pool of blood if you know what I mean…

Peter… auuuwww!! This man is so so charming! He’s starting to be empathic again, does that mean that he’s getting his powers back anytime soon? My fingers are crossed…

Matt/Sylar: I didn’t like that storyline in the premiere, but after watching this ep., I kinda like it! I mean, for a second, just for a second, I thought: “Aw, Sylar wants to help Matt”, how wrong I was! He just wanted to mess up with Matt, of course! Wouldn’t be easier if he’s nice and politely asks Matt to give him back his body??? haha just kidding! Love the tragic life of Parkman right now, poor man, but the lesson’s learned: If you mess with Mr. Gray, he’ll comeback and bite you hardest in the a**…

Wow, I’m looking forward to Claire’s storyline again since season 2… She’s growing up and that’s very cool! And I keep believing: Gretchen’s a b***c! And Clairebear’s being so naive. And for her sake, this “relationship” won’t last so much… Seriously, I want to see Gretchen in a ditch, is too much to ask? Call me crazy, but I want Claire to be bad-ass like her “future self” in “I Am Become Death”, really!

I’m really happy, NO Hiro!!! Yaii!! They focusing in less character per episode which is helping to understand better and avoid disasters like volume 3…

Kisses!

]]> By: VoiceOfReason http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-6794 VoiceOfReason Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:24:10 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-6794 Samuel absorbed the ink from the jar into his body at the beginning of the episode. I think the hand shake was a cover for putting some of that ink into Peter to be transformed into the compass. Just speculation, as I am not sure what the compass stuff actually signifies yet. Samuel absorbed the ink from the jar into his body at the beginning of the episode. I think the hand shake was a cover for putting some of that ink into Peter to be transformed into the compass. Just speculation, as I am not sure what the compass stuff actually signifies yet.

]]> By: Otto http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-6770 Otto Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:20:09 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-6770 <strong>Pas</strong>, <em>"Taking Matt Jr away seems to me the only road involving no power-hunting/head-slicing so far, so why not… That could also add more to Matt’s character, shall that happen."</em> If Sylar wanted to take revenge on Matt after months of being stuck inside his head, stealing Matt Jr would probably be the most effective way to do it. It might also be an interesting way to continue the addiction analogy, because I can't see Matt showing any restraint on his ability if Sylar kidnaps his son. <strong>LeeAnna</strong>, <em>"I do have a spoiler to support that it could happen, but I don’t know if I can post it."</em> I tend to steer clear of them where I can in reviews, but if it's relevant to the discussion then please feel free to mention it. The only time I'd draw the line would be crucial plot points. Examples of this would be "Character X is about to die," "Between Popular Theory A and Popular Theory B, Theory A is correct," etc. Hope that approach makes sense. If you're not sure, drop me an e-mail. Pas,

“Taking Matt Jr away seems to me the only road involving no power-hunting/head-slicing so far, so why not… That could also add more to Matt’s character, shall that happen.”

If Sylar wanted to take revenge on Matt after months of being stuck inside his head, stealing Matt Jr would probably be the most effective way to do it. It might also be an interesting way to continue the addiction analogy, because I can’t see Matt showing any restraint on his ability if Sylar kidnaps his son.

LeeAnna,

“I do have a spoiler to support that it could happen, but I don’t know if I can post it.”

I tend to steer clear of them where I can in reviews, but if it’s relevant to the discussion then please feel free to mention it. The only time I’d draw the line would be crucial plot points. Examples of this would be “Character X is about to die,” “Between Popular Theory A and Popular Theory B, Theory A is correct,” etc. Hope that approach makes sense. If you’re not sure, drop me an e-mail.

]]> By: Otto http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-6769 Otto Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:09:27 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-6769 Just a thought, looking at the dialogue in the episode for a moment: Claire on the phone to HRG: "It's not just us anymore, and I'm gonna have other people in my life, friends and <strong> boyfriends</strong>, and I can't close myself off with lies." I'm not getting the impression that the show wants to pretend Claire was never interested in guys. If they were, I can't believe they'd intentionally write in stuff like that. It could be that Claire will be more surprised than anyone by her feelings for Gretchen. Just a thought, looking at the dialogue in the episode for a moment:

Claire on the phone to HRG: “It’s not just us anymore, and I’m gonna have other people in my life, friends and boyfriends, and I can’t close myself off with lies.”

I’m not getting the impression that the show wants to pretend Claire was never interested in guys. If they were, I can’t believe they’d intentionally write in stuff like that. It could be that Claire will be more surprised than anyone by her feelings for Gretchen.

]]> By: Ian http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-6765 Ian Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:30:49 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-6765 Oh, and Otto - they should really consider splitting Ando-Hiro like they 'may' split Claire-Noah. Ando and Hiro were a fine double-act in S1, but they really should be interacting with everyone else more. Heck -- Hiro and Peter's emerging storyline during S1/S2 was great. It'd be nice to see them return to that. Oh, and Otto - they should really consider splitting Ando-Hiro like they ‘may’ split Claire-Noah. Ando and Hiro were a fine double-act in S1, but they really should be interacting with everyone else more. Heck — Hiro and Peter’s emerging storyline during S1/S2 was great.

It’d be nice to see them return to that.

]]> By: Ian http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-6763 Ian Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:28:39 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-6763 The scene in S2 where The Haitian visits Noah in Costa Verda, for me, confirmed they were genuine friends. Even extended to S3 - where Noah didn't ask The Haitian to help him kill Sylar. That suggests Noah knows that The Haitian and Angela have a close relationship too. And THAT is why I dislike hardcore criticism of this show. The Angela-Noah-Haitian writing is always so damn good, and so damn subtle, that it deserves props. The scene in S2 where The Haitian visits Noah in Costa Verda, for me, confirmed they were genuine friends. Even extended to S3 - where Noah didn’t ask The Haitian to help him kill Sylar. That suggests Noah knows that The Haitian and Angela have a close relationship too.

And THAT is why I dislike hardcore criticism of this show. The Angela-Noah-Haitian writing is always so damn good, and so damn subtle, that it deserves props.

]]> By: Ian http://www.herosite.net/blog/2009/10/01/403-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-6762 Ian Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:25:41 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=1595#comment-6762 Which bugged the Hell out of me, considering she loved both Xander and Oz in a sexual way. Which bugged the Hell out of me, considering she loved both Xander and Oz in a sexual way.

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