Comments on: 4.02 “Jump, Push, Fall”

By: SolarisOne

SolarisOne — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:21:30 +0000

Peter was a regular Tommy Oliver in that fight scene. I kept half expecting him to start going “suh-hiyah! suh-hiyah!” and the “Go, Green Ranger, Go!” theme to play. The last part would have been badass as hell, but I digress.

By: Charles

Charles — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:10:13 +0000

Good reviews… To meet your request for translation, the caption on the board next to Kimiko reads “Hey!” with a connotation of anger. The rest of the board consists of ridiculous behavioral admonitions, typical with corporate life (self-control, manners, accepting challenge, etc). Interestingly, the last one on the list is “Don’t do anything stupid!” Which, of course, is advice that Hiro will never take to heart…

By: Teebore

Teebore — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:01:45 +0000

Welcome back, and thanks for another great pair of reviews!

I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised that they actually SHOWED us the fight between Peter and Darth Maul. When the show cut to commercial, I turned to my wife and said “what are they odds they pull a Sylar/Nathan/Peter and only show us the aftermath of the fight when we come back from this break?” I was wrong, and happy to be.

Which is probably why I completely glossed over the fact that Peter was somehow fighting like a ninja. Either that, or the fact that in these kinds of situations, everyone knows to kung fu fight. Like, it’s the unspoken secondary power every character in a super hero story gets along with their main power.

I wish I could find Parkman’s storyline as captivating as you do. Sylar is definitely more enjoyable than he’s been in a long time, but I’m still entirely frustrated by Parkman himself and his steadfast refusal to anything cool with his power.

However, we definitely share frustrations over the lack of development for Hiro and the steadfast refusal to do anything but comic relief beats with him. He truly is the show’s “clown” (hey, he’d fit right in at the carnival!) in the worst possible way, and he’s capable of so much.

Otherwise, the start of the season is promising-hopefully that promise is met.

By: Korey

Korey — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:15:22 +0000

good review as always. As for Peter, I am still up in the air over what he actually took from sylar, as the show never explains if peter just took one of sylars powers, all of them or maybe just the ability to take others powers again is still very unclear. We also dont know if by taking the speed he lost insect power as well. I found it disheartening last year when they didnt show peter exploring his new ability, and I also found it disheartening that once again what he can actually do isnt truely known, at this point its all guess work.

By: B.

B. — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:14:34 +0000

For once, I don’t really have anything new to add (I think I’m tapped out from my review of Orientation) but here’s my .2

As a viewer, I know we’re supposed to feel bad for Noah, but besides the overly piteous surroundings (I agree that Noah wouldn’t let himself fall that far) I don’t feel bad for him. Not at all. His actions regarding Sylathan were stupid and he should have known better. Angela at least had the defense that Nathan was her son, but Noah, who’s been chasing Sylar forever, who knows the damage that Sylar is capable of, willingly let him live? Um, no. Bad idea, and now you’ve screwed yourself, Noah. Even though I doubt that Sandra is bed-hopping with someone else, (completely against her character) I wouldn’t blame her if she was.

And the obvious overtones of Noah/Tracy…sigh. No words for that.

The tattoos still suck. Everyone’s faces look all ruddy.

By: elvinperia

elvinperia — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:09:24 +0000

nice review… i like the season premiere of heroes.. i just noticed that in one scene where Hiro is in the carnival 14 years ago, the slush teleported from his chest to his shoulder.. to see what i mean, check out this scene… http://tinyurl.com/hiroslush

By: LeeAnna

LeeAnna — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:01:48 +0000

Thanks for the review again Otto. I know many people had problems with the Sylathan story line at the end of S3, but I foresaw this coming and knew that they could handle it. It was a brilliant idea in its implications. I love Matt and Sylar. Quinto is always at his best when he plays Sylar messing with people. I hope they fix his issues and have the mean, vindictive Sylar around. They could still have him as an antihero even with that attitude. So here is to hoping!!

By: Mrcaliche

Mrcaliche — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:27:28 +0000

While I always enjoy your reviews, I’ve been noticing a very bad tendency with them since last season. It’s like you seem to spot things that are normally obvious manipulation attempts by the writers (Gretchen is evil, and they’re totally trying to get you to like her over Annie), but completely close yourself to possibilities of the contrary manipulation, for example, has it actually occurred to you that the reason why they’re making it SO DAMN OBVIOUS that there’s something wrong with Gretchen (to the point in which even a blind guy with an IQ of -300 would notice it) is so everyone will immediately think “Yup, she killed Annie and she has her own agenda regarding Claire”, to then actually have Claire blame her for it when it becomes FAR too obvious to her, to have it in the end NOT be Gretchen who killed her but someone else, and that she might not be evil, but just very disturbed. I think most times when something like Gretchen’s villainy is made that obvious, under the guise of “niceness”, chances are she actually ISN’T villanous, you were just made to think she was. It’s kind of a double-manipulation.
Then there’s the whole “Troah” thing, man you’re absolutely OBSESSING over this when it’s obvious that will never be the real thing, they might play with it for a while, some “attempts” at it might happen, but it won’t go far. Noah didn’t show any interest in anything with Tracy other than concern for her UNTIL he called Sandra and got the answer from the other guy, it’s damn obvious that Noah is feeling insecure, thinking that Sandra is with another guy who is probably gonna end up being some dog breeder or something, who has nothing but a friendship with Sandra, and he’s simply thinking “okay, if she can be with another man this soon, then I can be with another woman too, especially one as hot [or cold] as this one, that’ll show her”, it’s the typical “you’re over me? well I’ll show you I’m over you too”, it never lasts, so this will definitely be just a temporary thing.
And that basically leads into the other problem with your reviews, you basically just tend to dismiss very good scenes just because of something you perceive in the background all by yourself. It’s like “they will do something I don’t like two scenes from now, so I won’t like this scene for it”.
And the “Dumb As” Awards were really fun in the past, and were given when truly deserved, but now you give them out for anything to then contradict yourself… I mean, you give Matt and Dumb As Award for thinking the whole Sylathan thing will just go away and refusing to use his powers, but then you praise the way they’re equating his refusal to use his ability with an addiction and mention that as the reason the character is being better portrayed, so which one is it? I don’t think that warrants a “PING!”, it’s simply a guy who did something he felt was too wrong and just never wants to do it again? Is it denial? YESSSS! OF COURSE IT IS! But it’s not dumb character or plotwise.
Then, on the Sylathan thing, I thought killing Nathan was an EXCELLENT decision, not because I didn’t like the character, I actually LOVED Nathan and thought he was the one consistent character in the whole series’ run, but because the fact that we liked the character would make it hurt that much more when we had the aberration of having Sylar become Nathan, it’s like killing your best friend and then parading his corpse in front of you, which I’m sure is how Angela must be feeling right now. To me it was a stroke of genius with permitted Matt’s current character arc. You criticize the decision saying there was no REASON for it other than Angela’s desperation, but you neglect to mention there WAS an actual reason, which was that NO ONE other than Nathan could’ve stopped what the government was doing and turned it into the current incarnation of the Company. NO ONE. But Nathan was dead, it was the only viable option at the time. Was it horrible? Was it reprehensible? Was it a big chunk of denial? Was it something that will DEFINITELY come bit them all in the ass? YES! But stop saying it wasn’t necessary, because it was, and you shouldn’t let your thoughts about THAT particular plot decision seep into your criticism of current scenes which are amazing, because that’s just not fair to the show at all.

That said, I still enjoy your reviews very much. I agree that it seems like they haven’t learned their lessons when it comes to Hiro and I hope they can bring him out of the ditch they put him in, or just kill him off altogether. (Or maybe having him settle down with Charlie in the past until both of them die due to their illnesses). I love your reviews, but think they’re due for improvement, particularly the “Dumb As” award which is actually suffering from the same problems you have pointed out in the show, it’s like you HAVE to give it out to somebody, even if it’s not warranted, just because it’s something you HAVE to do.

By: Pas

Pas — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:06:43 +0000

*RIP Daphne…

On a sidenot, I’m wondering if superspeed/electricity is way cheaper to produce than other powers… More than half the main cast has/had one of those powers…

By: Pas

Pas — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:04:48 +0000

“I worry that Hiro’s being portrayed as a guy whose motive for helping people is enjoying the recognition for his good deeds, and that it’s more about feeling better about himself than it is about actually helping people”.
> Yep that’s about what I wonder too. Back in S1, he was naive but felt mor uninterested for recognition (ie blaming himself as he couldn’t save people because he couldn’t control his powers). The slap in the face beggan in S3 when he opened that damn sage because “Woohoo I’m a hero !!! I’m bored” then showboating to his mother that “I saved the world. twice”… and that’s what make me feel bitter even though I like the idea that he will go fix his mistakes. The Ando/Kimiko example is perfect. He has to grow up before he dies somehow. Yet he’s not a child. He’s even worse :/.

A word on Annie/Gretchen. Annie was annoying, but in an hilarious way, but I just find Gretchen creepy. I don’t think the writers want us to like her more than to be suspicious about her, but of course, it happened to us to dig complexity too far last year…