Comments on: 3.20 “Cold Snap”

By: peter

peter — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:16:07 +0000

i love heroes i hope there will be a heroes game freeroming but my favoritite character has got to be hiro and ando they are the funniest i mean when hiro and ando have the baby matt parkman ando has to make a funny face and hiro says hold it till we get to new york thats 29miles that ando’s not ment to move i feel so sorry for him

By: Jeane

Jeane — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:41:57 +0000

Excellent review, Otto! You nailed it (as always). I loved and enjoyed reading your detailed, funny, and entertaining episode review every week. In my opinion, this episode was definitely the BEST Episode of this volume/season, thus far…and it was nice to see that you gave this episode a 5 out of 5 rating it deserved.

By: Mike11

Mike11 — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:21:33 +0000

Always knew that Micah was Rebel, but I’m more of the opinion that he’s doing all this himself. It’s always been obvious, to me at least, that the kid has genius level intelligence. But if he is working with someone, why not Molly? She has the ability to find anyone anywhere. Would easily explain how he could find Hiro and Ando in India, knew where Angela was in the elevator and just when to contact Peter to swoop in and save her, that Claire was sitting at home and needed to be told where to go to save the Comic Book Kid, etc. Molly’s been pretty much missing in action as long as Micah has. As far as I know, Molly hasn’t been caught yet by the Goons, and Micah and his family have been able to stay off the radar as well.

I hope we see more of these “Super Powered Kids”. It brings a different element to the show when the adult heroes have interactions with the younger ones. Its kind of like the adults realizing - these are just kids and having that human response of having to protect them - but in the same moment thinking Whoa! This is some kicka** stuff this kid can do!

By: Otto

Otto — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:13:47 +0000

Rip-off or homage? I think a lot of those moments were consciously referencing other shows or movies.

I took the Danko-shooting-Tracy sequence to be a nod to T2.

By: Observant

Observant — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:36:39 +0000

Does it not bother anyone how blatantly scene after scene of this episode is a rip-off of something else? Danko shaving is from the main title of ‘Dexter’. Daphne sitting on the sign overlooking Paris is a rip-off of a Channel perfume commercial, Daphne and Matt flying is ‘Superman Returns’ meets ‘ET’. The unconsious supers are held in a room reminiscent of ‘Coma’. Baby Matt and the frustrated babysitter could not be more derivative of The Incredibles. Even the door locks holding Tracy in are straight from ‘The Fly’. The only moment that doesn’t seem stolen from another movie is Tracy freezing, and maybe that’s just because I haven’t see the source for that. I’m not sure why everyone thinks Fuller and Yaitanes are so brilliant. Anyone can peicemeal their favorite iconic moments from other movies and TV shows and string them together with a loose story. The hard part is being original.

By: Melanie

Melanie — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:22:34 +0000

A few notes:

1. In theory, Micah has access to all the government files, which is how he knew about Matt Jr. So it’s not so hard to believe that he knew the baby was about to be taken captive, if he’s keeping tabs on their files. He would have known who was next on their target list.

2. Tracy is NOT dead. This was confirmed in the commentary by Bryan Fuller. Hence the wink at the end. Daphne, sadly, is dead.

3. About the Sylar/Doyle scenario: Apparently, according to Bryan Fuller, a scene was cut. There was supposed to be a scene between Sylar and Doyle establishing how he ended up strung up in the Hunter’s apartment.

Other than these clarifications, great review!!!! Heroes is getting stronger every episode! Let’s hope tomorrow’s doesn’t disappoint.

By: Thepandorarose

Thepandorarose — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:17:45 +0000

Okay my entire post is gone.

I loved everything as usual, you are always spot on.

What took my attention the most was your talk of Angela leaving everything behind, being stripped of her wealth and her money frozen. My thought while watching was that if she used her CC or debit card she would have been found - that’s how the always find people on Law and Order. lol. But on a second viewing it dawned on me the woman left her purse behind in the car - which REALLY is the metaphor for walking away from her life - having to let it all go. Now did she do that because she had to, or did Angela actually have a moment where she was thinking. What was magic about Angela on the run that just as much as she knows from experience to be Invisible vs the fly metaphor the comic book guy asked clear - but she knew running draws attention - walking away was the best bet.

By: Pas

Pas — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:29:12 +0000

Agreed on everything you just wrote.
It happened to quite a few shows, and unfortunately, it seems that Heroes fell in fan-service at some point (some say NBC had an influence too but I have no idea how, so if someone could lighten me ^^) and it’s unfortunate that creativity might have suffered it.
Like you said, there is talent among the writers (CT, 5YG you mentionned happens to be my favourites episodes along with Company Man) and I couldn’t agree more with the “placebo effect”. We can’t deny The show hasn’t been as strong as its first season was, but it has gotten way better. I agree that every person have his own opinion. Personally, I think that there were good things that came out of volume 3 (among way less good things, but apparently people just remember the crap nowadays) and as much as I loved it, season 1 wasn’t perfect either. And still some people just bash the show for the hell of it, about how it “just sucks” and those person either don’t watch the show (potentially anymore), so they can’t have an idea of what’s going on, or watch it while they think it sucks (which means that they have time to waste and that they contribute in the ratings). I don’t think Heroes would have survived 2 seasons of bashing if it “just sucked”.
Finally, agreeing again for the ratings. The best this volume can do is build up audience for the next season, via good-will and word of mouth. The thing is that “real new viewers” will be hard to hover now, since with it’s popularity, most of people already gave a shot to Heroes (either not liking it, which is their right, or leaving during vol 2/3). Since the quality improvment can’t be denied, my hopes are up that it can hover some lost fans back (that would catch up somehow) for next season, and why not a bit for the final.

By: Daniel P

Daniel P — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:26:28 +0000

Well, I think Millie and Hiro’s reference to his mother were born of Fuller’s ideas, since in the commentary he was talking about how, coming back to the show, he wanted to explore these things about Angela and Hiro’s past. But interestingly, Millie is also an indirect creation of Katherine Pope, who wanted to see Angela’s turn as a fugitive when the episode was being pitched to the suits.

And if Fuller were around, the show would probably still be one of the big-name TV shows right now (with perhaps a small dip due to the writers strike). And I doubt he would ever let Loeb make the awful decision to go for more plot-driven stories, instead of the character-based ones that Heroes was known for. Speaking of which, despite how a lot of people blame the writers, it’s not as if season 1 was written by just Fuller. There was some real talent and skill. Joe Pokaski in particular wrote some of Heroes best episodes: Fallout, Cautionary Tales and Five Years Gone, and I look forward to more work from him. But I think once Kring started to get too caught up in the business side of things, the writers started to lose focus. That, and they were far too concerned with fan-compensation. Villains, after all, was partially born from a desire to provide fans with “adrenaline” after what they felt was a stagnated Volume 2. Not a good idea to be so easily swayed by fans (who, to be completely blunt, can come up with some truly awful ideas on what they think the direction of show should be), I’d say.

And thinking about, I really think the praise this episode has been getting has been something of a placebo effect. It IS a great episode, but people seem to just condemn anything written by anyone else nowadays no matter how good they actually are, and make some awful, illogical criticisms as a result. It’s gotten annoying.

But, uh, anyways…about the ratings, I think Heroes, at best, could hover between 9-10 million starting next season. But the rest of this volume is going to be more of an opportunity to build good-will and word of mouth. And who knows, maybe the season finale will end up drawing in some big numbers.

By: KellyH

KellyH — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:15:22 +0000

RE: Claire and Nathan’s interactions since S1…

There was a phone call in 2.01 where Nathan essentially blew Claire off.
Nathan getting shot was the reason she went to Odessa in 3.01.
There was a very long interaction in 3.07, where Noah, Meredith, Peter, and Tracy were all present.

I think that’s ’bout it.