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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/11/01/206-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see that the new cheerleader, Dianna Argon, is in a raunchy new movie, Skid Marks?  Do you think that might be why they spelled her name wrong?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see that the new cheerleader, Dianna Argon, is in a raunchy new movie, Skid Marks?  Do you think that might be why they spelled her name wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel P</title>
		<link>http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/11/01/206-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm pretty sure they're not going the zombie route. That just doesn't seem very "Heroes-ish". The promo for the next episode indicates 93% of the world's population is dead, not that 93% of the world's population is made up of zombies. Although somehow, that'd be funny to see in Heroes land.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure they&#8217;re not going the zombie route. That just doesn&#8217;t seem very &#8220;Heroes-ish&#8221;. The promo for the next episode indicates 93% of the world&#8217;s population is dead, not that 93% of the world&#8217;s population is made up of zombies. Although somehow, that&#8217;d be funny to see in Heroes land.</p>
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		<title>By: tree1138</title>
		<link>http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/11/01/206-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>tree1138</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or is anyone else worried about the way the virus storyline could head. When Peter teleported to a deserted NYC and we saw the evacuation notice, the first thing I thought of was a Resident Evil/ 28 Days Later type scenario. I hope that they don't play the spread of the virus like in those movies. But as for Caitlin, Otto, I think you are pretty close to predicting her exit. My money is on her dying in the next episode, in an infected NYC, leaving Peter with a crusade to go back in time and stop the virus.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or is anyone else worried about the way the virus storyline could head. When Peter teleported to a deserted NYC and we saw the evacuation notice, the first thing I thought of was a Resident Evil/ 28 Days Later type scenario. I hope that they don&#8217;t play the spread of the virus like in those movies. But as for Caitlin, Otto, I think you are pretty close to predicting her exit. My money is on her dying in the next episode, in an infected NYC, leaving Peter with a crusade to go back in time and stop the virus.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel P</title>
		<link>http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/11/01/206-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess we'll never agree, but hey, thanks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess we&#8217;ll never agree, but hey, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Michael&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;Senor&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for clarifying the border patrol issue. I saw "Citizen's Border Patrol" on the car and heard Sylar describe them as "border patrol(/fake police)" and didn't dwell on it. But you're both right, it would have been more accurate to write "Minutemen" or "voluntary immigration control." I appreciate the correction.

&lt;strong&gt;Daniel P&lt;/strong&gt;, I nominate you to help the show finish the Kensei/Yaeko/Hiro triangle. I think you sold it more convincingly than they did. The Kensei/Yaeko bond doesn't work for me because it hasn't been developed. Even the scene under the cherry trees which you mentioned was shot from Hiro's perspective. There needed to be a little more to establish why they cared about one another. As it stands, I think Yaeko's more in love with the notion of a gallant hero who rescues her and all of Japan from tyranny. That's why her feelings shift from Kensei to Hiro so quickly when she learns that he's the one with the ability.

&lt;strong&gt;Susan&lt;/strong&gt;, with Mohinder's reluctance to eliminate an ability which the owner loves, the point I was trying to make was that the idea of elimination was nothing new to Mohinder. It's why the dialogue felt a little awkward when Bob started lecturing Mohinder about certain individuals needing to be stopped at all costs. Mohinder should know that better than anyone after Chandra's death.

&lt;strong&gt;Raissa&lt;/strong&gt;, I don't know if Beeman's blog this week was a sign of the show being in trouble. If they're reshooting portions of "Powerless" at the last minute, I can kind of forgive the guy for skipping a blog. Understandably, the production schedule &lt;em&gt;had&lt;/em&gt; fallen apart at that point.

&lt;strong&gt;KellyH&lt;/strong&gt;, I'll mourn &lt;em&gt;Origins&lt;/em&gt;! I was looking forward to seeing how a serial show approaches a series of standalone episodes. I don't know if it would turn &lt;em&gt;Heroes&lt;/em&gt; into a franchise; it struck me more as a creative way to branch out the story and the concepts. I hope they revisit the idea at some point.

&lt;strong&gt;JSheedy&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;Ken&lt;/strong&gt;, I'm thinking maybe the whole thing with the Haitian's "trick" is one of those instances when the show's canon clashes with the GNs? I mean, even if the memory-wiping developed after the ability-blocking, The Company knew about the memory-wiping from the moment they discovered him. Thompson had that drawing from the Haitian of the guy pulling memories out of a person's head "like little grub worms." I think the Haitian could always erase specific chunks of memory, and I think The Company always knew about it. Maybe Ivan wasn't in the loop on this particular ability; maybe the Haitian wasn't partnered with HRG until much later; or, maybe, it's just one of those minor errors which the show makes from time to time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Michael</strong>, <strong>Senor</strong>, thanks for clarifying the border patrol issue. I saw &#8220;Citizen&#8217;s Border Patrol&#8221; on the car and heard Sylar describe them as &#8220;border patrol(/fake police)&#8221; and didn&#8217;t dwell on it. But you&#8217;re both right, it would have been more accurate to write &#8220;Minutemen&#8221; or &#8220;voluntary immigration control.&#8221; I appreciate the correction.</p>
<p><strong>Daniel P</strong>, I nominate you to help the show finish the Kensei/Yaeko/Hiro triangle. I think you sold it more convincingly than they did. The Kensei/Yaeko bond doesn&#8217;t work for me because it hasn&#8217;t been developed. Even the scene under the cherry trees which you mentioned was shot from Hiro&#8217;s perspective. There needed to be a little more to establish why they cared about one another. As it stands, I think Yaeko&#8217;s more in love with the notion of a gallant hero who rescues her and all of Japan from tyranny. That&#8217;s why her feelings shift from Kensei to Hiro so quickly when she learns that he&#8217;s the one with the ability.</p>
<p><strong>Susan</strong>, with Mohinder&#8217;s reluctance to eliminate an ability which the owner loves, the point I was trying to make was that the idea of elimination was nothing new to Mohinder. It&#8217;s why the dialogue felt a little awkward when Bob started lecturing Mohinder about certain individuals needing to be stopped at all costs. Mohinder should know that better than anyone after Chandra&#8217;s death.</p>
<p><strong>Raissa</strong>, I don&#8217;t know if Beeman&#8217;s blog this week was a sign of the show being in trouble. If they&#8217;re reshooting portions of &#8220;Powerless&#8221; at the last minute, I can kind of forgive the guy for skipping a blog. Understandably, the production schedule <em>had</em> fallen apart at that point.</p>
<p><strong>KellyH</strong>, I&#8217;ll mourn <em>Origins</em>! I was looking forward to seeing how a serial show approaches a series of standalone episodes. I don&#8217;t know if it would turn <em>Heroes</em> into a franchise; it struck me more as a creative way to branch out the story and the concepts. I hope they revisit the idea at some point.</p>
<p><strong>JSheedy</strong>, <strong>Ken</strong>, I&#8217;m thinking maybe the whole thing with the Haitian&#8217;s &#8220;trick&#8221; is one of those instances when the show&#8217;s canon clashes with the GNs? I mean, even if the memory-wiping developed after the ability-blocking, The Company knew about the memory-wiping from the moment they discovered him. Thompson had that drawing from the Haitian of the guy pulling memories out of a person&#8217;s head &#8220;like little grub worms.&#8221; I think the Haitian could always erase specific chunks of memory, and I think The Company always knew about it. Maybe Ivan wasn&#8217;t in the loop on this particular ability; maybe the Haitian wasn&#8217;t partnered with HRG until much later; or, maybe, it&#8217;s just one of those minor errors which the show makes from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSheedy: You are kind of mistaken. The graphic novel shows that the Haitian's first ability is nullifying any superpowers. That is why his father wanted to kill him because he nullified his father's powers unknowingly.

Thus, in that sense, his FIRST power will be nullifying any superpower and then only his SECOND trick is, he learned to mind wipe.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSheedy: You are kind of mistaken. The graphic novel shows that the Haitian&#8217;s first ability is nullifying any superpowers. That is why his father wanted to kill him because he nullified his father&#8217;s powers unknowingly.</p>
<p>Thus, in that sense, his FIRST power will be nullifying any superpower and then only his SECOND trick is, he learned to mind wipe.</p>
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		<title>By: The Universal Guardian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Universal Guardian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been under the impression that Kensei's adventures were just folklore based around a historic figure, and not pure fact.

So, it boils down to more "George Washington Never tells a lie" as opposed to "George Washington was the first president of the United States". In this case, Hiro isn't breaking history, as the folklore aspects of Kensei(stories told to him as a child) gives him a lot of leeway in the past.

At least, that's what i thought...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been under the impression that Kensei&#8217;s adventures were just folklore based around a historic figure, and not pure fact.</p>
<p>So, it boils down to more &#8220;George Washington Never tells a lie&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;George Washington was the first president of the United States&#8221;. In this case, Hiro isn&#8217;t breaking history, as the folklore aspects of Kensei(stories told to him as a child) gives him a lot of leeway in the past.</p>
<p>At least, that&#8217;s what i thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JSheedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSheedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the Haitian's 'new trick' : Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't his first trick sort of wiping memories backwards from the moment he initiated the power.  Throughout the first season, he would do things like make Parkman forget the last three days, or make Noah himself forget the last weeks of being honest with his family and planning thier escape, or even wiping Claire's rapist's entire life.  But I don't remember him ever reaching back to pick out a specific set of memories from the past and erasing by keyword, so to speak - if that was the case, it would be an enormous improvement on the old mindwipe and be a realy fancy new trick.  Or it's possible that the writers have been just a little inconsistent in the way his power has been implemented.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the Haitian&#8217;s &#8216;new trick&#8217; : Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but wasn&#8217;t his first trick sort of wiping memories backwards from the moment he initiated the power.  Throughout the first season, he would do things like make Parkman forget the last three days, or make Noah himself forget the last weeks of being honest with his family and planning thier escape, or even wiping Claire&#8217;s rapist&#8217;s entire life.  But I don&#8217;t remember him ever reaching back to pick out a specific set of memories from the past and erasing by keyword, so to speak - if that was the case, it would be an enormous improvement on the old mindwipe and be a realy fancy new trick.  Or it&#8217;s possible that the writers have been just a little inconsistent in the way his power has been implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: Se�or J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Se�or J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Michael.
Before Sylar said it (10 seconds earlier, actually), I knew that the guys Maya killed weren't *real* Border Patrol agents because the U.S. Border Patrol cars are white with green and gold stripes. They also wear greenish uniforms, not their "as is" civvies.

My best friend and I have gone from referring to Maya and Alejandro as "Wanda and Pietro" (the former Avengers twins) to "Northstar and Aurora" (the twins from Alpha Flight, also with a tactile-based ability) to "Maya y Miguel" (the brother and sister from PBS Kids). That being said, they *really* need to get away from Sylar in a hurry. What's worse than sneaking into the country with your own criminal record? Sneaking in with a murderer on the FBI's wanted list!

I sooo want to see Monica develop into this "counter-Taskmaster", "Mega Man" type ability-duplicating hero. I almost shed a tear when I thought she was getting her power removed. Of course, it might be because she did my favorite WWE finisher. (Booyaka, booyaka! 619!) I'd have fallen off of the couch if she finished it by jumping off the counter onto the guy into a rolling pin.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Michael.<br />
Before Sylar said it (10 seconds earlier, actually), I knew that the guys Maya killed weren&#8217;t *real* Border Patrol agents because the U.S. Border Patrol cars are white with green and gold stripes. They also wear greenish uniforms, not their &#8220;as is&#8221; civvies.</p>
<p>My best friend and I have gone from referring to Maya and Alejandro as &#8220;Wanda and Pietro&#8221; (the former Avengers twins) to &#8220;Northstar and Aurora&#8221; (the twins from Alpha Flight, also with a tactile-based ability) to &#8220;Maya y Miguel&#8221; (the brother and sister from PBS Kids). That being said, they *really* need to get away from Sylar in a hurry. What&#8217;s worse than sneaking into the country with your own criminal record? Sneaking in with a murderer on the FBI&#8217;s wanted list!</p>
<p>I sooo want to see Monica develop into this &#8220;counter-Taskmaster&#8221;, &#8220;Mega Man&#8221; type ability-duplicating hero. I almost shed a tear when I thought she was getting her power removed. Of course, it might be because she did my favorite WWE finisher. (Booyaka, booyaka! 619!) I&#8217;d have fallen off of the couch if she finished it by jumping off the counter onto the guy into a rolling pin.</p>
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		<title>By: Raissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KellyH,

&lt;i&gt;Is it too little too late for the "jump the shark" and "sophomore slump" crowd? Who knows?&lt;/i&gt;

I plan on sticking with the show, because of the characters and actors i still love, even if many of their story lines are lacking. I'm a fanfic reader/writer, so I'll just address the issues I have with the show through that outlet during the void that will be the writers' strike.

Re: Sylar, I totally agree. Fact is, I was sick of him by late S1.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KellyH,</p>
<p><i>Is it too little too late for the &#8220;jump the shark&#8221; and &#8220;sophomore slump&#8221; crowd? Who knows?</i></p>
<p>I plan on sticking with the show, because of the characters and actors i still love, even if many of their story lines are lacking. I&#8217;m a fanfic reader/writer, so I&#8217;ll just address the issues I have with the show through that outlet during the void that will be the writers&#8217; strike.</p>
<p>Re: Sylar, I totally agree. Fact is, I was sick of him by late S1.</p>
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