Comments on: 2.04 “The Kindness of Strangers” http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/ Episode reviews and more for the hit NBC show, Heroes! Thu, 17 May 2012 11:41:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: tree1138 http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-179 tree1138 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:01:06 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-179 I think Bob said he wouldn't take Molly away so the Company wouldn't seem like they are rounding up Heroes they want. If Mohinder weren't so valuable to The Company, I think Molly would be gone. I think Bob said he wouldn’t take Molly away so the Company wouldn’t seem like they are rounding up Heroes they want. If Mohinder weren’t so valuable to The Company, I think Molly would be gone.

]]> By: Raissa http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-178 Raissa Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:11:32 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-178 Otto, That's a good point about Noah Vs. West. However, I think things will sort themselves out, at least for this year, and the family bond will tighten. I know many folks don't like Kristin from E!, but I've found her Heroes tidbits reliable so far. She had this to say... <i>West Might Be Shady: Nick D'Agosto (aka Peter Pan) says of what's ahead for his character, "Now, all of the sudden it's romance, romance, romance, and then from there, hijinks ensue. He's kind of mysterious and dark, but has a real genuine side in him that wants to find out more about his power, and he's deeply engaged in finding out more about Claire." Is it just me, or is there something a tiny bit nefarious sounding going on there? HRG Is Not Dying: You can quote me on that! By the way, Jack Coleman himself recently told me that the Bennets (as a family) don't take well to being mucked around. You hassle one, you hassle all, and that means Mr. Muggles, too!</i> <a href="http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=546318ba-0607-49f4-b60c-f6f82a661c98&sid=fd-kristin" rel="nofollow">http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=546318ba-0607-49f4-b60c-f6f82a661c98&sid=fd-kristin</a> Otto,

That’s a good point about Noah Vs. West. However, I think things will sort themselves out, at least for this year, and the family bond will tighten. I know many folks don’t like Kristin from E!, but I’ve found her Heroes tidbits reliable so far. She had this to say…

West Might Be Shady: Nick D’Agosto (aka Peter Pan) says of what’s ahead for his character, “Now, all of the sudden it’s romance, romance, romance, and then from there, hijinks ensue. He’s kind of mysterious and dark, but has a real genuine side in him that wants to find out more about his power, and he’s deeply engaged in finding out more about Claire.” Is it just me, or is there something a tiny bit nefarious sounding going on there?

HRG Is Not Dying: You can quote me on that! By the way, Jack Coleman himself recently told me that the Bennets (as a family) don’t take well to being mucked around. You hassle one, you hassle all, and that means Mr. Muggles, too!

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=546318ba-0607-49f4-b60c-f6f82a661c98&sid=fd-kristin

]]> By: Otto http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-177 Otto Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:08:09 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-177 <strong>tree1138</strong>, I really like your point about Molly's fear of going to sleep explaining her snappiness. Do you think Molly's nightmares began when The Company asked her to find Papa Parkman? Or did Molly "sense" that Papa Parkman could see her and only then try to locate him? <strong>Michael</strong>, I hear what you're saying about Bob not knowing where to find Papa Parkman. I'd still say it was a solid starting point if Matt and Mohinder wanted to figure out what was going on. Any information Bob could have given about a rogue founder of The Company could have helped. Good point about the Haitian. It hadn't occurred to me. It's one of those instances when you sort of wish the story threads could cross over, because the Haitian probably <em>could</em> block Papa Parkman's ability. Maybe Matt will think of this and it'll happen through Mohinder's connection to Noah? <strong>Raissa</strong>, if Claire <em>IS</em> The Company, would that mean that Noah taking down The Company also means taking down Claire? :) Or could it be leading to a point where Noah will destroy his bond with Claire at the same time as destroying The Company; where Claire will need to choose between a broken family life of secrecy and distrust and a life with a guy who's apparently offering solidarity and jumping-off-the-Hollywood-sign trust. I think that's what Painting #8 hints at. <strong>Daniel P</strong>, with the Bob/Papa Parkman story, you're probably right. Thing is, Bob emphasized in the premiere that he/The Company had no intention of taking Molly away or interfering with the 3M living arrangement. Bob knows how valuable Molly is. If Mohinder and Matt told Bob that the Super-GPS was going into meltdown because of an ex-Company member, there's at least a chance Bob would try to help. He might not be able to, but I think it's an avenue which Matt and Mohinder needed to explore before putting Molly in danger. <strong>Susan</strong>, I'm with you on the Ireland storyline: I don't think it's <em>boring</em>, but it feels like a very clunky attempt to keep Peter out of the central supervirus, Superhoodie and Nightmare Man stories, and it feels very removed from the rest of the show. It's cool how it explores what Peter is without his memories and his attachment to the people he cares about, but the whole "displaced character" thing is getting tired very quickly. If he doesn't get his memories back soon, I think it <em>could</em> get boring. tree1138, I really like your point about Molly’s fear of going to sleep explaining her snappiness. Do you think Molly’s nightmares began when The Company asked her to find Papa Parkman? Or did Molly “sense” that Papa Parkman could see her and only then try to locate him?

Michael, I hear what you’re saying about Bob not knowing where to find Papa Parkman. I’d still say it was a solid starting point if Matt and Mohinder wanted to figure out what was going on. Any information Bob could have given about a rogue founder of The Company could have helped.

Good point about the Haitian. It hadn’t occurred to me. It’s one of those instances when you sort of wish the story threads could cross over, because the Haitian probably could block Papa Parkman’s ability. Maybe Matt will think of this and it’ll happen through Mohinder’s connection to Noah?

Raissa, if Claire IS The Company, would that mean that Noah taking down The Company also means taking down Claire? :)
Or could it be leading to a point where Noah will destroy his bond with Claire at the same time as destroying The Company; where Claire will need to choose between a broken family life of secrecy and distrust and a life with a guy who’s apparently offering solidarity and jumping-off-the-Hollywood-sign trust. I think that’s what Painting #8 hints at.

Daniel P, with the Bob/Papa Parkman story, you’re probably right. Thing is, Bob emphasized in the premiere that he/The Company had no intention of taking Molly away or interfering with the 3M living arrangement. Bob knows how valuable Molly is. If Mohinder and Matt told Bob that the Super-GPS was going into meltdown because of an ex-Company member, there’s at least a chance Bob would try to help. He might not be able to, but I think it’s an avenue which Matt and Mohinder needed to explore before putting Molly in danger.

Susan, I’m with you on the Ireland storyline: I don’t think it’s boring, but it feels like a very clunky attempt to keep Peter out of the central supervirus, Superhoodie and Nightmare Man stories, and it feels very removed from the rest of the show. It’s cool how it explores what Peter is without his memories and his attachment to the people he cares about, but the whole “displaced character” thing is getting tired very quickly. If he doesn’t get his memories back soon, I think it could get boring.

]]> By: Susan http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-176 Susan Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:40:07 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-176 Otto, Claire definitely trusted Zach, but what she shared with Peter was a bit different. She and Peter were going through the same thing ... trying to deal with what was happening to them. Peter was the first person she came across that could do what she could. So, naturally there was a connection. (Of course it didn't hurt that he saved her life and was totally her hero.) Regarding Papa Parkman ... while it is possible, and highly likely, he recognized his son as the one trying to listen in, there is nothing definitive. Papa Parkman could have just been aware of somebody else and kicked him out to keep them from interfering. Regarding the pace ... I'm hoping last week's and next week's are the start of this show kicking into high gear. With Kristin Bell's character showing up in Ireland, that should help get Peter back into the mix ... I hope. One last thing, the Ireland storyline doesn't bother me. I can see how it would be boring for others, but I'm just glad to still have Peter on the show. Having said that, I can't wait for the Petrelli family reunion. The only thing about that is whether or not Peter should have regained his memories before he sees his brother and mother again. Either way would be interesting. Otto,

Claire definitely trusted Zach, but what she shared with Peter was a bit different. She and Peter were going through the same thing … trying to deal with what was happening to them. Peter was the first person she came across that could do what she could. So, naturally there was a connection. (Of course it didn’t hurt that he saved her life and was totally her hero.)

Regarding Papa Parkman … while it is possible, and highly likely, he recognized his son as the one trying to listen in, there is nothing definitive. Papa Parkman could have just been aware of somebody else and kicked him out to keep them from interfering.

Regarding the pace … I’m hoping last week’s and next week’s are the start of this show kicking into high gear. With Kristin Bell’s character showing up in Ireland, that should help get Peter back into the mix … I hope.

One last thing, the Ireland storyline doesn’t bother me. I can see how it would be boring for others, but I’m just glad to still have Peter on the show. Having said that, I can’t wait for the Petrelli family reunion. The only thing about that is whether or not Peter should have regained his memories before he sees his brother and mother again. Either way would be interesting.

]]> By: Daniel P http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Daniel P Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:28:33 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-175 Very true. Here's hoping that the strike will be averted. Very true. Here’s hoping that the strike will be averted.

]]> By: Raissa http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Raissa Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:41:26 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-174 Here's the latest on the WGA strike situation: <a href="http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974428.html?categoryid=13&cs=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974428.html?categoryid=13&cs=1</a> Here’s the latest on the WGA strike situation:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974428.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

]]> By: Raissa http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Raissa Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:43:42 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-173 Daniel P, Re: Pacing, you're likely right. But, that means the writers' strike could and would affect those arcs that carry over. The issue was addressed in a Q&A with two of the writers: <a href="http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12125" rel="nofollow">http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12125</a> Daniel P,

Re: Pacing, you’re likely right. But, that means the writers’ strike could and would affect those arcs that carry over. The issue was addressed in a Q&A with two of the writers:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12125

]]> By: Daniel P http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Daniel P Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:25:15 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-172 Otto, that sounds like a brilliant direction the story of the Bennets could go, and probably will. Still, bringing that into the equation way too early will probably lessen the dramatic impact, and doing it only a little while after "Company Man" just doesn't seem right. True, there's much more to the symbol, but Nathan would only know that it's the symbol of his father's law firm. No point digging, especially if Matt was reading his mind. It seems like Matt is going to do it alone (and with one other person). No way he can bring the police into this, especially when Angela's case is "closed". Still, even if Matt's actions were rationalized as such, I won't deny that he was someone very desperate to settle his daddy issues, even willing to ask something dangerous of Molly (while still trying to help her by having her confront her fear). His obsession left his judgment questionable. Also, I do think Molly was in danger regardless of Matt's interference. She was just scared to confront him herself, more so than the other way around. As for Bob, no one has any clue what happened with Papa Parkman and Bob, along with the Company itself. And just coming to him, especially about the Company's workings, would be highly dangerous, wouldn't you think? Raissa, there's something I want to say about the pacing: while it is moving like it did in season 1, I don't think there'll by anything rushed to meet the end of Volume 2. Character arcs will probably continue into Volume 3, while others may meet their end. I think the only thing that'll truly reach its conclusion is the origins of the Company and the killer who's picking them off--as well as the Nightmare man. Otto, that sounds like a brilliant direction the story of the Bennets could go, and probably will. Still, bringing that into the equation way too early will probably lessen the dramatic impact, and doing it only a little while after “Company Man” just doesn’t seem right.

True, there’s much more to the symbol, but Nathan would only know that it’s the symbol of his father’s law firm. No point digging, especially if Matt was reading his mind.

It seems like Matt is going to do it alone (and with one other person). No way he can bring the police into this, especially when Angela’s case is “closed”. Still, even if Matt’s actions were rationalized as such, I won’t deny that he was someone very desperate to settle his daddy issues, even willing to ask something dangerous of Molly (while still trying to help her by having her confront her fear). His obsession left his judgment questionable.

Also, I do think Molly was in danger regardless of Matt’s interference. She was just scared to confront him herself, more so than the other way around. As for Bob, no one has any clue what happened with Papa Parkman and Bob, along with the Company itself. And just coming to him, especially about the Company’s workings, would be highly dangerous, wouldn’t you think?

Raissa, there’s something I want to say about the pacing: while it is moving like it did in season 1, I don’t think there’ll by anything rushed to meet the end of Volume 2. Character arcs will probably continue into Volume 3, while others may meet their end. I think the only thing that’ll truly reach its conclusion is the origins of the Company and the killer who’s picking them off–as well as the Nightmare man.

]]> By: Raissa http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Raissa Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:50:22 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-171 Otto, Imo, they seem to be pacing themselves for the standard 22-24 ep. season. I have no sense that the smaller arcs have affected anything. I feel like we are at the same place in the narrative as we were at this time last year. Personally, I was experiencing exposition fatigue at this time last year and the same is true, now. They need to get Bell Otto,

Imo, they seem to be pacing themselves for the standard 22-24 ep. season. I have no sense that the smaller arcs have affected anything. I feel like we are at the same place in the narrative as we were at this time last year. Personally, I was experiencing exposition fatigue at this time last year and the same is true, now. They need to get Bell

]]> By: Michael http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/10/18/204-the-kindness-of-strangers/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Michael Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:51:10 +0000 http://www.herosite.net/blog/?p=31#comment-170 Regarding Papa Parkman and Bob, my point was that Papa Parkman is probably no longer connected to the Company. Bob probably doesn't know Papa Parkman's exact location, which is what Matt wanted. As for Bob knowing about possible ways to deflect Papa Parkman's ability, keep in mind that the Company couldn't think of a way to neutralize Matt's ability without using the Haitian. That raises a interesting question. If the Haitian used his powers to neutralize Papa Parkman's ability, would Molly wake up from her coma, or would she stay in her coma until Papa Parkman brought her out? Regarding Papa Parkman knowing about Molly staying with Matt, didn't Matt say that he tried to read Molly's mind during the nightmares but Papa Parkman sensed him and threw him out? Papa Parkman probably recognized his son. Regarding Papa Parkman and Bob, my point was that Papa Parkman is probably no longer connected to the Company. Bob probably doesn’t know Papa Parkman’s exact location, which is what Matt wanted. As for Bob knowing about possible ways to deflect Papa Parkman’s ability, keep in mind that the Company couldn’t think of a way to neutralize Matt’s ability without using the Haitian. That raises a interesting question. If the Haitian used his powers to neutralize Papa Parkman’s ability, would Molly wake up from her coma, or would she stay in her coma until Papa Parkman brought her out?
Regarding Papa Parkman knowing about Molly staying with Matt, didn’t Matt say that he tried to read Molly’s mind during the nightmares but Papa Parkman sensed him and threw him out? Papa Parkman probably recognized his son.

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