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		<title>By: CJM</title>
		<link>http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/03/02/117-company-man/comment-page-1/#comment-9848</link>
		<dc:creator>CJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even in the here and now, this is one of, if not the best episode of Heroes ever.  Just wanted to see if I could still comment on these old reviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in the here and now, this is one of, if not the best episode of Heroes ever.  Just wanted to see if I could still comment on these old reviews.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/03/02/117-company-man/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm new to Heroes, but I just finished watching "Company Man". I don't understand the ending. Why did HRG have to be shot? Is the Haitian taking the memories of HRG that have to do with him knowing where Claire is? And if he's doing that, won't it seem kind of odd to Thompson that HRG doesn't remember anything? Or is the Haitian taking all of HRG's memories regarding Claire? What about Claire's mom and brother? They'll still have their memories. If anyone could help answer these questions, it'd be greatly appreciated.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to Heroes, but I just finished watching &#8220;Company Man&#8221;. I don&#8217;t understand the ending. Why did HRG have to be shot? Is the Haitian taking the memories of HRG that have to do with him knowing where Claire is? And if he&#8217;s doing that, won&#8217;t it seem kind of odd to Thompson that HRG doesn&#8217;t remember anything? Or is the Haitian taking all of HRG&#8217;s memories regarding Claire? What about Claire&#8217;s mom and brother? They&#8217;ll still have their memories. If anyone could help answer these questions, it&#8217;d be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn't say that Mr. Bennet's portrayal has changed at all in this episode.  I've realized early on that Mr. Bennet was not the suspicious evil man that the promotions for the show were pushing.  I thought it was pretty evident beginning with his concern for Claire's safety, and the fact that a lot of what he's done has been to keep Claire safe.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that Mr. Bennet&#8217;s portrayal has changed at all in this episode.  I&#8217;ve realized early on that Mr. Bennet was not the suspicious evil man that the promotions for the show were pushing.  I thought it was pretty evident beginning with his concern for Claire&#8217;s safety, and the fact that a lot of what he&#8217;s done has been to keep Claire safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Raissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KellyH,

In Part 4 of the commentary, they mentioned a cut flashback of Claude giving Claire her first bear and how Claude was a surrogate uncle and father figure in the early stages, because HRG was trying to follow orders and keep his distance.

Otto,

Re: not telling Meredith about Claire - If they go that route, I see two scenarios.

A. Claude feels betrayed over Meredith's leaving Claire behind and figures she's unfit to know.

B. Claude figures he has two lives to protect -- one adult, one baby. He decides that Meredith, as the adult, can take care of herself. On the other hand, a helpless baby who is brought into the Company will have the protection she needs until she's old enough to run herself. To ensure Meredith doesn't unintentionally endanger Claire, therefore, she isn't told.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KellyH,</p>
<p>In Part 4 of the commentary, they mentioned a cut flashback of Claude giving Claire her first bear and how Claude was a surrogate uncle and father figure in the early stages, because HRG was trying to follow orders and keep his distance.</p>
<p>Otto,</p>
<p>Re: not telling Meredith about Claire - If they go that route, I see two scenarios.</p>
<p>A. Claude feels betrayed over Meredith&#8217;s leaving Claire behind and figures she&#8217;s unfit to know.</p>
<p>B. Claude figures he has two lives to protect &#8212; one adult, one baby. He decides that Meredith, as the adult, can take care of herself. On the other hand, a helpless baby who is brought into the Company will have the protection she needs until she&#8217;s old enough to run herself. To ensure Meredith doesn&#8217;t unintentionally endanger Claire, therefore, she isn&#8217;t told.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Dolack</title>
		<link>http://www.herosite.net/blog/2007/03/02/117-company-man/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Dolack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heroes is the best show on television and everyone is just starting to realize that.  Can we expect all episodes to be as good as this one?  As the review said, some episodes you can watch again and again, and this is that episode for heroes.  Even if you have never seen the show, this episode is a grea starting point if they want to get caught up in the hype.  All they would need is somone familar with the show to fill in the blank spots the first time viewer would have.
Great job heroes.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heroes is the best show on television and everyone is just starting to realize that.  Can we expect all episodes to be as good as this one?  As the review said, some episodes you can watch again and again, and this is that episode for heroes.  Even if you have never seen the show, this episode is a grea starting point if they want to get caught up in the hype.  All they would need is somone familar with the show to fill in the blank spots the first time viewer would have.<br />
Great job heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: KellyH</title>
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		<dc:creator>KellyH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In "Unexpected," when Peter bends the quarterstaff using telekinesis, Claude asks him which of his "little friends" is telekinetic.  Peter replies that none of them are--then he thinks and he says "that guy who was chasing CLAIRE in Texas threw some locker doors at me."

So Claude definitely heard her name, which should have warned him then and there that Peter was a magnet for HRG, but it didn't seem to.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In &#8220;Unexpected,&#8221; when Peter bends the quarterstaff using telekinesis, Claude asks him which of his &#8220;little friends&#8221; is telekinetic.  Peter replies that none of them are&#8211;then he thinks and he says &#8220;that guy who was chasing CLAIRE in Texas threw some locker doors at me.&#8221;</p>
<p>So Claude definitely heard her name, which should have warned him then and there that Peter was a magnet for HRG, but it didn&#8217;t seem to.</p>
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		<title>By: Otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Raissa&lt;/strong&gt;, I agree, in terms of dramatic irony and narrative structure, Claude protecting Claire's bio-mom would make sense.

Do you think he would have kept Claire's survival from Meredith, though, and do you think he would have kept the identity of Claire's biological mother from HRG?

I'm not sure. That's a whole backstory waiting to be told.

&lt;strong&gt;KellyH&lt;/strong&gt;, neat theory on HRG shooting Claude. It looked to me like Bennet was stunned that he shot at all; compared with the way the Haitian shot so precisely, it didn't look like HRG was paying much attention to where the bullet went until the second shot.

I don't know whether &lt;em&gt;that's&lt;/em&gt; the parallel with the bridge scenes. To me, that's the contrast; HRG has gone from blindly following instructions to doing whatever it takes to protect his daughter.

Did Peter mention Claire's name in "Distractions"? He refers to "this girl [he] met in Texas," but he doesn't name her (at least not in the version I'm looking at). Claude still has this expression, though, like, "WTF? Is that Claire he's talking about? So HRG didn't turn her in and vivisect her?"

Not sure if it's a plothole. Kring's networking of the characters has been airtight so far, so I'm tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Raissa</strong>, I agree, in terms of dramatic irony and narrative structure, Claude protecting Claire&#8217;s bio-mom would make sense.</p>
<p>Do you think he would have kept Claire&#8217;s survival from Meredith, though, and do you think he would have kept the identity of Claire&#8217;s biological mother from HRG?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure. That&#8217;s a whole backstory waiting to be told.</p>
<p><strong>KellyH</strong>, neat theory on HRG shooting Claude. It looked to me like Bennet was stunned that he shot at all; compared with the way the Haitian shot so precisely, it didn&#8217;t look like HRG was paying much attention to where the bullet went until the second shot.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether <em>that&#8217;s</em> the parallel with the bridge scenes. To me, that&#8217;s the contrast; HRG has gone from blindly following instructions to doing whatever it takes to protect his daughter.</p>
<p>Did Peter mention Claire&#8217;s name in &#8220;Distractions&#8221;? He refers to &#8220;this girl [he] met in Texas,&#8221; but he doesn&#8217;t name her (at least not in the version I&#8217;m looking at). Claude still has this expression, though, like, &#8220;WTF? Is that Claire he&#8217;s talking about? So HRG didn&#8217;t turn her in and vivisect her?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not sure if it&#8217;s a plothole. Kring&#8217;s networking of the characters has been airtight so far, so I&#8217;m tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: KellyH</title>
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		<dc:creator>KellyH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 06:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Claude and HRG, do you think that HRG intentionally shot him in non-fatal spots?  And I'm guessing that Claude didn't fall off the edge after going invisible, but went somewhere else.  Perhaps HRG knew he was firing at thin air so that he could tell a story to Thompson, et al. and not be lying?  The parallel to the scene on the bridge with the Haitian suggests that HRG missed the vitals intentionally.

Raissa, I haven't seen the commentary.  Is there evidence for your Claude-hiding-Meredith-and-playing-surrogate-uncle-to-Claire theory, or is it basically speculation?  I didn't see any evidence that Claude ever interacted with young Claire, although he obviously knew Claire's name, which begs the question why he didn't seem to put two and two together when Peter talked about her (he did mention her name).  Why wouldn't that have tipped him off that HRG might be on Peter's trail?  Seems to be a bit of a plot hole to me...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Claude and HRG, do you think that HRG intentionally shot him in non-fatal spots?  And I&#8217;m guessing that Claude didn&#8217;t fall off the edge after going invisible, but went somewhere else.  Perhaps HRG knew he was firing at thin air so that he could tell a story to Thompson, et al. and not be lying?  The parallel to the scene on the bridge with the Haitian suggests that HRG missed the vitals intentionally.</p>
<p>Raissa, I haven&#8217;t seen the commentary.  Is there evidence for your Claude-hiding-Meredith-and-playing-surrogate-uncle-to-Claire theory, or is it basically speculation?  I didn&#8217;t see any evidence that Claude ever interacted with young Claire, although he obviously knew Claire&#8217;s name, which begs the question why he didn&#8217;t seem to put two and two together when Peter talked about her (he did mention her name).  Why wouldn&#8217;t that have tipped him off that HRG might be on Peter&#8217;s trail?  Seems to be a bit of a plot hole to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 03:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That might be exactly why they go that route. After all, HRG shot at Claire's bio and surrogate uncles in Unexpected. In terms of narrative structure, connecting Claude to Meredith, as well as Peter, makes the irony and karma that much more inescapable.

Apart from everything else, I'm just looking forward to Claire and Claude meeting. Claude will be mush within half an hour. Peter won't even mind that he gets tough love and Claire gets proverbial teddy bears, because he'll be having to much fun ribbing Claude about it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That might be exactly why they go that route. After all, HRG shot at Claire&#8217;s bio and surrogate uncles in Unexpected. In terms of narrative structure, connecting Claude to Meredith, as well as Peter, makes the irony and karma that much more inescapable.</p>
<p>Apart from everything else, I&#8217;m just looking forward to Claire and Claude meeting. Claude will be mush within half an hour. Peter won&#8217;t even mind that he gets tough love and Claire gets proverbial teddy bears, because he&#8217;ll be having to much fun ribbing Claude about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Raissa&lt;/strong&gt; -- yeah, it could definitely be Meredith. Weird irony if HRG shot Claude for protecting Claire's mother.

Not sure about Claude warning Meredith; I didn't get that impression from the graphic novel. It seemed like he was just stunned that the super he'd been sent to bring in had such a destructive power.

&lt;strong&gt;KellyH&lt;/strong&gt;, I like the theory on the Claude/Petrelli connection. There could have been evidence in Meredith's apartment which led to Nathan, or it could be that whoever identified Meredith as a super also identified Nathan.

But ... do you think The Company would have cared about Nathan if he hadn't manifested a power back then? It seemed like the first time he flew was in "Six Months Ago".

Not saying the theory doesn't work, just that on the strength of what we've seen so far, The Company only bags and tags supers after they've demonstrated some kind of ability. They probably don't have a way to track supers without evidence; I think that's why HRG was so keen to get a hold of Mohinder's list of names.

There's also the moment in "Distractions" when Claude made a jibe about wanting to put his fist in Nathan's face; he might not have said that about a guy he nearly died protecting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Raissa</strong> &#8212; yeah, it could definitely be Meredith. Weird irony if HRG shot Claude for protecting Claire&#8217;s mother.</p>
<p>Not sure about Claude warning Meredith; I didn&#8217;t get that impression from the graphic novel. It seemed like he was just stunned that the super he&#8217;d been sent to bring in had such a destructive power.</p>
<p><strong>KellyH</strong>, I like the theory on the Claude/Petrelli connection. There could have been evidence in Meredith&#8217;s apartment which led to Nathan, or it could be that whoever identified Meredith as a super also identified Nathan.</p>
<p>But &#8230; do you think The Company would have cared about Nathan if he hadn&#8217;t manifested a power back then? It seemed like the first time he flew was in &#8220;Six Months Ago&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not saying the theory doesn&#8217;t work, just that on the strength of what we&#8217;ve seen so far, The Company only bags and tags supers after they&#8217;ve demonstrated some kind of ability. They probably don&#8217;t have a way to track supers without evidence; I think that&#8217;s why HRG was so keen to get a hold of Mohinder&#8217;s list of names.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the moment in &#8220;Distractions&#8221; when Claude made a jibe about wanting to put his fist in Nathan&#8217;s face; he might not have said that about a guy he nearly died protecting.</p>
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